Boris at it again and the contest to replace the lying c***

[Sniffer]

I believe a lawsuit has been filed against the government now in regards to the corruption. I doubt it will change anything however. It will be dismissed as more evidence of ‘lefty lawyers and do gooders’ trying to make a nuisance of themselves.

I think that the lawsuits relate to the publishing of the contracts that have been awarded. It is the law that such things are put into the public domain.

The Government in their defence are just stating that they had to pay what they did to get the PPE in quickly. Judging by the weekends polls, the fact that you were 10 times more likely to get a contract for PPE if you had connections to the Government/Conservative Party doesn't seem to be bothering many people/half of the electorate.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

What the electorate do and don't get animated about fascinates me.

Cronyism doesn't seem to stir too much emotion, yet a few hundred people on dinghies trying to get into the country drives people wild.

 

[Paul]

Are the government bribing you to question every negative post about them on here?

Not in the slightest, there just has to be some balance to the pitchfork wielding mob on here, otherwise every post is just preaching to the choir

 

[leedswolf]

Not in the slightest, there just has to be some balance to the pitchfork wielding mob on here, otherwise every post is just preaching to the choir

Hardly balance when you just take up a 'contrary stance'.

 

[Keef]

What the electorate do and don't get animated about fascinates me.

Cronyism doesn't seem to stir too much emotion, yet a few hundred people on dinghies trying to get into the country drives people wild.

It's because all those immagrunts are TaKkin are jobs and bEneffIts innit

 

[Paul]

Hardly balance when you just take up a 'contrary stance'.

If you want to submit a list of what I should question then be my guest, but surely the burden of proof lies with the person making the claim, do you not agree?

 

[lemonjelly]

"There is no place for bullying in government" says the pm who declined to take any action with regards to proven bullying taking place.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

"There is no place for bullying in government" says the pm who declined to take any action with regards to proven bullying taking place.

It gets to the stage where i just think he is trolling us.

 

[leedswolf]

If you want to submit a list of what I should question then be my guest, but surely the burden of proof lies with the person making the claim, do you not agree?

Seriously? Is that your response? You don't 'question' though do you? Throwing in glib statements isn't balance. As for 'burden of proof', ffs it's a forum not a criminal court, there's no presumption of innocence.

 

[Derby Wolf]

The good news keeps coming on our procurement judicial review - Good Law Project

Following permission being granted in our PPE cases earlier this week, we’ve now heard that we’ve also been granted permission to bring our challenge against the lucrative public affairs contract given to long-time associates of Michael Gove and Dominic Cummings at Public First. In the...

goodlawproject.org

Following permission being granted in our PPE cases earlier this week, we’ve now heard that we’ve also been granted permission to bring our challenge against the lucrative public affairs contract given to long-time associates of Michael Gove and Dominic Cummings at Public First.

In the Government’s summary grounds of defence, they do not even bother to contest that their decision to award the contract without competition was lawful. And their conduct does not seem to have thrilled the Court:

“The Defendant has provided no substantive response to the Claimant’s challenges, whether by way of pre-action correspondence or his Acknowledgement of Service, other than to state his intention to challenge the Claimant’s standing…The Defendant ought to have been able to indicate the general nature of his grounds of resistance in the Acknowledgment of Service.

“It is arguable that there was, at 3 March 2020, no extreme urgency within Regulation 32(2)(c) in respect of a contract for services of this nature”.

The hearing will be in February 2021.

We anticipate we are now very likely to be given permission in our challenges to the Abingdon Health and Saiger contracts too. The Government’s arguments are wearing thin.

 

[Jolemai]

[Paul]
In other news, bloke gets new job.
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[Templeton Peck]

So the mentality of another pay freeze for the public sector is that the private sector have suffered more? OK then. Less consumer demand during economic crisis is always a great idea.

And Sunak mentions borrowing to justify it all. Who are we borrowing from?

 

[Johnny75]

Another socialist failing to understand consumerism and basic economics.

I've just seen Annaleese Dodds arguing the same thing on SKY.

The argument that giving the public sector a payrise so they can spend more is the same as cutting taxes for the rich so they can spend more. And there was me thinking trickle down economics was despised by the left, just not when it comes to the public sector it seems.

 

[Lupo]

I hope the millionaires in the cabinet enjoy their £3.6k payrises this year

 

[Templeton Peck]

Another socialist failing to understand consumerism and basic economics.

I've just seen Annaleese Dodds arguing the same thing on SKY.

The argument that giving the public sector a payrise so they can spend more is the same as cutting taxes for the rich so they can spend more. And there was me thinking trickle down economics was despised by the left, just not when it comes to the public sector it seems.

There are far more people earning middling wages in the public sector than there are billionaires. One billionaire can only eat so many meals and have so many haircuts. Normal plebs like me spend about 70% of our income in the real UK economy - it doesn't go abroad or on works of art. Please explain to me how less people spending money will help the private sector?

 

[Johnny75]

Do you understand consumerism?

Unless you manufacture and have an economy built on knowledge transfer then consumerism is the ultimate house of cards.

That's before you get to the fact it costs roughly twice as much to the economy to give a public sector payrise.

What you're arguing for actually damages the economy at a time when the private sector, who pay for the public sector, is shrinking. Increasing public spending without the benefit to all.

I would argue that giving money to a select few of the public is hugely damaging at a time when people have lost their jobs and seen their wages shrink this year.

If there is to be increased spending then much better to put it into services and infrastructure whilst borrowing is cheap rather than giving it to a select few to spend on fucking haircuts.

 

[Johnny75]

I hope the millionaires in the cabinet enjoy their £3.6k payrises this year

Another disgraceful public sector payrise

 

[Templeton Peck]

Do you understand consumerism?

Unless you manufacture and have an economy built on knowledge transfer then consumerism is the ultimate house of cards.

That's before you get to the fact it costs roughly twice as much to the economy to give a public sector payrise.

What you're arguing for actually damages the economy at a time when the private sector, who pay for the public sector, is shrinking. Increasing public spending without the benefit to all.

I would argue that giving money to a select few of the public is hugely damaging at a time when people have lost their jobs and seen their wages shrink this year.

If there is to be increased spending then much better to put it into services and infrastructure whilst borrowing is cheap rather than giving it to a select few to spend on fucking haircuts.

1. The private sector doesn't pay for the public sector.
2. 5.4 m people is 15% of the working population - hardly the 'select few'.
3. How will 5.4m consumers being less likely to spend in the private sector help the private sector?

 

[Johnny75]

That's just laughable, who do you think funds the public sector?

 

[Templeton Peck]

That's just laughable, who do you think funds the public sector?

Bank of England creates the money from nothing and 'loans' it to the govt. At the end of the year, the govt usually clears the loan with a mixture of tax receipts and bond sales.