Boris at it again and the contest to replace the lying c***

[Kenny]

Deluded prick (Corbyn not Kenny)

to be fair, I am one

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I wonder what effect the Brexit Party will have? I can’t see them winning many seats but their votes are going to come from somewhere. Question of whether it is Labour or Conservative votes they pick up I guess. There certainly won’t be an electoral pact to help them.

Labour have 200 seats that are pretty much safe as houses. If the SNP go back toward their 2015 high water mark that is going to be 50ish. I am assuming that Swinson keeps her seat in Aberdeen but virtually everything else up there goes yellow. Plaid will get their usual number, as will the Northern Ireland parties. I think the Lib Dems will pick up a few seats compared to their current position. Call that 300 seats in the bag for the opposition parties. Before we look at the Labour marginals or lost seats in London for Boris.

He isn’t home and hosed.

 

[SLA]

The only crumb of comfort I can take is that May also looked at the polls in 2017 and thought she had an open goal. That was when a lot of people still believed that Corbyn was a member of the White Stripes though.

A Tory victory with a working majority is on the cards, but their government will still be a shambles because sooner or later people will work out that "getting Brexit done" just isn't a thing. Brexit won't be "done" for generations and it will continue to paralyse our politics. Wouldn't surprise me if we had another election within a couple of years.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Sounds like labour whips are trying to bring down the programme motion which then probably sees De Pfeffel pull his bill. Can’t see that happening surely. Would be amusing from the “we agreed to an election, and you pulled the bill” argument.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I think the plan is actually to amend the bill now. Enfranchisement for 16 year olds and EU Nationals for a start. Anything like that holds and the whole thing would probably be off as you wouldn’t be able to carry out those changes before 12 December.

 

[Kenny]

NEW: No 10 spokesman says will pull the Election Bill if it’s amended to extend franchise to lower voting age or allow EU citizens to vote

Fookin Circus

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Government spokesman confirms the election bill will be pulled if parliament votes to extend the franchise in any way. Seeing as Labour and the SNP are clearly on board with that it rather depends on the Lib Dems then.

 

[Kenny]

Seeing as Labour and the SNP are clearly on board with that it rather depends on the Lib Dems then.

Lib Dem leader Jo Swinson now speaks.

"I do want 16 and 17-years-old to be able to vote," she says.

"It is a change whose time is coming.

"Of course I would vote for that change."

However she does not explicitly say she will be voting for the amendment seeking to extend the franchise this afternoon.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Swinson seems in favour of the franchise change, although not 100% explicit about it.

If the government pulls this bill it really isn’t a good look for De Pfeffel (whom I see has fucked off out of the chamber yet again).

 

[BGreenWolf]

It's up in the air as to whether those amendments will be selected for debate to begin with.

If Bercow were picking, they probably would be, but it's going to be Hoyle, and he's less likely to want to attach something like that.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Think you are probably right.

 

[Kenny]

So a whole load of time spent discussing something that won't happen. Time well wasted

 

[Del Woppio]

Joe Pike
(@joepike)
Bumped into Dominic Cummings.

Me: Ready for the campaign Mr Cummings?
DC: We’re not going to have one.
Me: Really?
DC: They’ll vote for EU citizens and we’ll have to pull it.

 

[AndyWolves]

Corbs must be fairly confident those amends are going through to agree to an election

 

[Johnny75]

Corbs must be fairly confident those amends are going through to agree to an election

The opposite is true. He knows the government will pull the bill and never wanted the election in the first place.

 

[AndyWolves]

The opposite is true. He knows the government will pull the bill and never wanted the election in the first place.

I'm being a bit thick then, why did corbs agree to an election?

Has it just got to the point where he had to?

 

[Johnny75]

I'm being a bit thick then, why did corbs agree to an election?

Has it just got to the point where he had to?

By agreeing to an election he doesn't want he looks like he's putting up a fight to those that called him scared. But he knows the amendment will fail and so nothing changes and he dodges a bullet and gets to switch tables on Boris and call him a chicken.

Corbyn is no different to Johnson, he wants to look a competent leader and somebody doing the right thing but really he is a weak leader who inspires nobody but hardcore acolytes.

It'll get to the stage where a coup is more appealing just to fuck these two idiots off.

 

[AndyWolves]

By agreeing to an election he doesn't want he looks like he's putting up a fight to those that called him scared. But he knows the amendment will fail and so nothing changes and he dodges a bullet and gets to switch tables on Boris and call him a chicken.

Corbyn is no different to Johnson, he wants to look a competent leader and somebody doing the right thing but really he is a weak leader who inspires nobody but hardcore acolytes.

It'll get to the stage where a coup is more appealing just to fuck these two idiots off.

Thanks

It seems though Corbyn will still end up fighting an election on BoJos terms - I just can't believe he willingly would

 

[Kenny]

Laura Kuenssberg -
Hoyle has not selected votes for 16 and 17 year olds or EU citizens but it's provisional until he confirms it in the speaker's chair which won't be until after the first vote in about twenty mins

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

It will go through then.