Boris at it again and the contest to replace the lying c***

[Papper]

Angie and Manny have wined and dined him then politely told him to go fuck himself.

None of them will reach an accord and to be fair with two months left to prevent chaos (because they've spent the last three years waving their cocks and flashing their tits at each other because nobody can decide if the vote was a good thing and don't want to recognise it anyway). I was hoping on the 1st November that Farage would be told to permanently fuck off and the population could get about removing the clown and voting in totally accountable representation.

 

[lemonjelly]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49439699

Universal credit is causing tenants to fall behind with rent, according to the Residential Landlords Association.

It said 54% of landlords had seen tenants on the benefit fall into arrears in the last year.

Debt charity Turn2Us warned universal credit will lead to "more rent arrears, more evictions and more homelessness".

But the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) said landlords had reported seeing fewer claimants in arrears in the last year.

swear to god that since 2010 the tories have had 2 responses to all evidence that austerity is a bad thing. The first is they are "investing record amounts in...". The second is highlighted in the above, essentially a version of fingers in the ear, wilfully ignoring evidence, and "la la la its not true".

It genuinely worries me how these tories seem to absolutely not give a flying fuck about peoples lives or quality of life.

 

[Papper]

I'm not sure austerity is seen as a good thing rather a necessity (depending on your views in raising revenues)

Some stats that loosely cover the Thatcher, Major, Blair & Cameron/May/Johnson decades.

Thatcher (national debt increase 48%)- Increase in population of 1 million - 100% increase public spending corresponding with 159% increase of total tax revenues.
Major (national debt increase 105%) - Increase in population of 2 million - 70% increase public spending corresponding with 66% increase of total tax revenues.
Blair (national debt increase 211%) - Increase in population 4 million - 97% increase public spending corresponding with 45% increase of total tax revenues.
Cameron (national debt increase 66%) - Increase in population 4 million - 25% increase public spending corresponding with 50% increase of total tax revenues.

 

[leedswolf]

This government is rotten to the core, it is now a common occurrence for it to come out that a Tory MP is being paid some outrageous amount to act as an adviser.

"The home secretary, Priti Patel, has been urged to withdraw from cabinet discussions about a lucrative £6bn defence contract, after it emerged that the US company that paid her £1,000 an hour to advise it plans to bid for the work."

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Hmmm. So Boris makes a claim about the export of Pork Pies, and it turns out to be bullshit. He lies like a rug.

 

[Papper]

If the decade up to 2020 had followed the track of decade 2000-2010 we have a shortfall in public spending of 478 billion. The demographics (increase in population of 4 million) suggest this was a necessity and given a further increase in population of 4 million between 2010 - 2020 there is just cause to be pissed off by current austerity measures. Bear in mind during that period national debt doubled (interest on national debt doubled too - now standing at 48 Billion per annum) and the Cons were left with the ' good luck there is no money left ' letter by the outgoing party ... Blair the architect of New Labour had done a runner by then - but he was popular because he kept taxes relatively ' low '. So lets be fair, austerity is a fuck up as no doubt it ruins peoples standard of life - but I just cannot see any way out of it without the UK absolutely imploding in another twenty years time.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

The UK is going to absolutely implode a lot quicker than that if Boris gets his way. No deal Brexit is going to be an economic disaster.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

As they have to be frozen and baked abroad and we dont seem to send any of them to Thailand or Iceland (bar the shop) then Boris is a fucking liar, like he was with kippers, like he was with buses.

 

[BillyDee]

I appreciate that this is all rather serious, but I'm just loving the fact that whilst we are discussing whether BoJo is a liar, the subject matter is pork pies...

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

It's a bit odd isn't it? He picks these random things to rail about.

Very Trump. Who I see is now denying that he has an idea about dropping nukes on hurricanes. Now that is lunacy.

 

[pavlosmacwolf]

he says today that elected MP's will have no say on Britain leaving the eu, so it's all down to a lying toad elected by about 1600 of his mates, and NOT by the electorate

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

We'll see how that goes...

 

[Papper]

he says today that elected MP's will have no say on Britain leaving the eu, so it's all down to a lying toad elected by about 1600 of his mates, and NOT by the electorate

They don't have a say. The UK had it's say. As public servants MP's are duty bound to deliver that mandate and as a collective they haven't. As a result we are in a fucked up position on 1st November having wasted three years trying to reverse the original decision.

 

[darlowolf64]

They don't have a say. The UK had it's say. As public servants MP's are duty bound to deliver that mandate and as a collective they haven't. As a result we are in a fucked up position on 1st November having wasted three years trying to reverse the original decision.

I thought the whole point of the Referendum was to "take back control" so that OUR Parliament can make decisions "for the better of the Country"? So isn't it right that the MPs decide if the electorate made a mistake based on, mostly, lies by the leave campaign?

 

[Papper]

I thought the whole point of the Referendum was to "take back control" so that OUR Parliament can make decisions "for the better of the Country"? So isn't it right that the MPs decide if the electorate made a mistake based on, mostly, lies by the leave campaign?

Again, the effects of leaving the EU are pure conjecture - there is no hard fast proof for either side. MP's are not elected to decide what the people want they are there to serve and deliver on promises. If our representation is better served by MP's telling us what will happen and ignoring a democratic mandate we may as well live under a one party state without recourse. They are there to win votes based on how they envisage a future relationship with other European countries outside of the union.

 

[Johnny75]

Again, the effects of leaving the EU are pure conjecture - there is no hard fast proof for either side. MP's are not elected to decide what the people want they are there to serve and deliver on promises. If our representation is better served by MP's telling us what will happen and ignoring a democratic mandate we may as well live under a one party state without recourse. They are there to win votes based on how they envisage a future relationship with other European countries outside of the union.

It is also the responsibility of MP' to make sure they do not put the country in a position that is perilous. They may be doing this by going for a 'no deal' option and as such options should be explored.

Particularly as nobody voted on what sort of exit from the EU as none were on offer.

 

[Papper]

It is also the responsibility of MP' to make sure they do not put the country in a position that is perilous. They may be doing this by going for a 'no deal' option and as such options should be explored.

Particularly as nobody voted on what sort of exit from the EU as none were on offer.

To an extent I agree BUT they have had three years to deliver that mandate. On the 1st November by default we are not subject to EU Directives or the ECJ. May was an abject failure and the blame lies fairly and squarely with her.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

May is so fundamentally dim that she has never understood the difference between the ECJ and the ECHR. Johnson almost certainly doesn't either.

 

[Papper]

May is so fundamentally dim that she has never understood the difference between the ECJ and the ECHR. Johnson almost certainly doesn't either.

And the focus should absolutely and fundamentally be on human rights. The ECHR has been about as productive in promoting social justice across Europe as the United Nations has been in preventing the 'West' bombing the fuck out of the Middle East and creating chaos in places like Venezuela and various African nations.

 

[Nando]

What the fuck is this?!

https://twitter.com/DavidTCDavies/status/1167343239822790656