2015 Cricket World Cup Australia/ New Zealand

[Carrotdude]

Moores, Morgan and Saker being moved on and replaced with better would be a big start to improving. A lot of the change needs to come from the top, so obsessed with plans and stats and everything that no one seems to play naturally anymore

 

[jd1981]

I agree I see Moores looking at lap top more than I see him watching the game, players don't seem to getting any proper guidance or confidence from the coaching staff.
I think Colin Graves is a bit more modern thinking than Downton, if we fail to make the 1/4 I expect Moores position be under serious threat. Whether the ECB will act is another matter.
What will probably happen is we'll scrape into the 1/4 and lose comfortably to India.
The ECB will think it's not to bad and will just plod along again.

 

[Carrotdude]

It's all a bit of a mess really.

 

[Tredman]

Had to call it a night not longer after we took our sole wicket. Disgraceful stuff from Morgan to throw the bowlers under the bus after his innings. 68% dot balls in the middle of the innings FFS.

We have little variety in our bowling, four right arm seamers of around the same pace (at least two of whom really need the ball to be swinging consistently to have an impact in ODIs) and an off spinner plus a part time off spinner. It will make defending totals difficult against teams with good batsmen. We were 20-30 light because of Morgan clogging up the innings and the psychology of chasing 310 as opposed to 340 is massive.

It remains incredible that we have guaranteed this guy a spot for this tournament at least when he has been in shocking form (is it even form now?) for a long, long time. If we want to get anywhere in the QFs (I still think we'll qualify) then he's got to be moving down the order now. There are far better players in better touch going completely wasted.

Morgan was dreadful, but I hardly think his 27 dot balls caused the loss vs 299 wicketless balls.

We are a team of boring English condition bowlers, you would have thought after the last Australian series this would have been obvious. It's time to consign Anderson and broad to tests, and possibly English tests at that.

 

[Carrotdude]

We have no one to replace them.

 

[Tredman]

Jade Dernbach

 

[Trips]

Its really frustrating that Anderson and Broad are allowed to get away with bowling as poorly as they do in one-dayers for so long, yet anyone young we try to bring through bowls poorly (as expected in spells) at the start of an international career and gets booted out.

As said above, move Broad and Anderson to just tests, and seriously give players a chance, not just a couple of games. The likes of Rankin, Jordan, Gurney have been around the one-day side yet get nowhere near the chances Broad and Anderson do.

This World Cup is a right off for me (even though if me made the quarters and got India I'd think we would have a chance) The next World Cup is here, so lets blood some youngsters and give them a proper chance.

Come the next one-dayers I wouldn't mind seeing us put out the following side.

Hales
Bell
Taylor
Root (c)
Moeen Ali
Stokes
Buttler
Woakes
Jordan
Rankin (or a spinner, not sure who though)
Gurney

A youthful, quick bowling attack with 6 genuine bowling options. Explosive players in Buttler, Stokes, Hales and Ali, and players who can bat sensibly and anchor an innings and rotate strike in Bell, Taylor and Root.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Rankin is 31 this summer and has appalling fitness, I'd leave him well alone but I agree with the general principle.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

England have some very good players, so I do wonder why it yet again went horribly wrong. We posted a decent total, but never looked capable of defending it.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

It wasn't that decent a total by modern ODI standards. It was bang average at best, no matter what Moores laptop says about it being "25 runs above par".

I don't agree with Morgan laying the entire blame at the feet of the bowlers, especially after his masterclass Boycott impression, which could destroy what is certainly brittle morale, but there are some simple truths to be said about our attack.

1. Every bowler is virtually the same. Similar pace, too reliant on swing which is ace with a red ball in English conditions but precisely no use on drop-in pitches or sub-continent dustbowls. We need explosive pace or some ability with reverse swing in the later overs. Oh, for a fully fit Jones the Bowl of 2005.... We don't need 135kph turgid stuff that is begging to be smacked all over the southern hemisphere.

2. There is an utterly unhealthy obsession with bowling short stuff when every other team in the competion is bowling a good length, fuller, or yorkers. When everyone else is doing it different and your results are uniformly shite, then perhaps the method you are stubbornly believing in is just plain wrong?

3. Moeen Ali may well become a decent spinner to ally with his batting, given time. There are plenty of causes for optimism. However, we just do not have an absolute mystery man of a spinner like so many other sides.

The batting is far far easier to solve. Get Hales in, move Taylor up, and remove Morgan.

Ali
Hales
Taylor
Bell
Root
Buttler

That is a fine top six.

 

[Alan]

I tried watching one match and I can't make heads or tails of it. More confusing than Aussie Rules.

 

[Kenny]

I tried watching one match and I can't make heads or tails of it..

Fancy being the Captain of the England team then?

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Chief of Selectors or Manager at least. Being on here shows Alan clearly knows how to at least turn a laptop on.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Pietersen again says he is going to try to get back in the England set up. Why would we want him back?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I don't believe he has the appetite to commit to the county grind which is what he'd need to do to earn his place back - he wouldn't just walk back in having played nothing but T20 cricket (and mostly badly) in 18 months. Moreover I don't think there is room for him in the Test team anyway. Trott might get back in as a makeshift opener for a couple of years purely because we don't have many other candidates and there has been an ongoing vacancy there in effect ever since Strauss retired. Bell bats 4 and Root bats 5 so where is KP meant to be going?

Would he get in the ODI team - yeah, probably. Although he was largely dirt in ODIs for years before he flounced off. But he isn't going to be around in 2019 so really, what is the point.

 

[Kenny]

Pietersen again says he is going to try to get back in the England set up. Why would we want him back?

We probably don't but the media (and Mr Twat Morgan) have not shut up about him and the new boss has stated he could come back if he plays County cricket on a regular basis. Naturally KP is going to say he would love to play but deep down I think he knows it is a slim chance of it happening.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

We probably don't but the media (and Mr Twat Morgan) have not shut up about him and the new boss has stated he could come back if he plays County cricket on a regular basis. Naturally KP is going to say he would love to play but deep down I think he knows it is a slim chance of it happening.

As DW said, I cannot see Pietersen going back on the county circuit. I think he expects to just walk back into the England set up.

 

[Kenny]

I think he expects to just walk back into the England set up.

I don't at all.

I think he likes the attention he gets and enjoys playing to the crowd. His potential path back has been put down, so if he was in any doubt he knows what he has to do.

 

[Sniffer]

The 2015 county season starts on 12 April but Pietersen is scheduled to play in the Indian Premier League, which takes place between 8 April and 24 May.
He also has commitments to the Caribbean Premier League, which is being held in June and July, and there is the possibility of him working in the media during the summer.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

His new IPL deal is for relative peanuts though - Delhi ditched him after he captained them to an awful season last time and Hyderabad picked him up at a rock bottom price after no-one else showed any interest, he wouldn't really be losing out on much if he reneged on that one. He almost certainly won't though.