Wolves 2 - 1 Liverpool: Match Verdict

[Alan]

Forest Green and Boro fans would suggest it's not our support he's please for.

His relationship with Wolves is very different from his relationship to Boro or Forest Green, regardless of cynicism. I don’t have any reason to take their sour grapes seriously. I’d rather enjoy seeing someone lose their shit like a supporter when we win.

 

[Mel Evo]

His relationship with Wolves is very different from his relationship to Boro or Forest Green, regardless of cynicism. I don’t have any reason to take their sour grapes seriously. I’d rather enjoy seeing someone lose their shit like a supporter when we win.

I don’t buy this at all. He played for us a a bit, he’s not a fan. It’s like the relationship thousands of previous players have with clubs. He logically took the gig because it was way more money, a crazy good contract because the CEO had lost touch with reality and back near his family. I don’t blame him at all, but he’s not here doing us a favour with his legendarily badly dealt hand.

You can note these pretty clear things and still be over the moon we’re winning by the way. For most employees the basic incentive to perform well to keep their job is a reasonable motivator. If it kept working then hooray for that too. And why not take the sour grapes of long standing Boro season ticket holders seriously? When ours are not we cry foul for superficial understanding of what’s really going on at our club, and rightly so too.

 

[Jack Regan]

You can obviously be cynical about it (I certainly was after the Villa game) and if you think of the most famous touchline dash of all time. Mourinho at Old Trafford which had nothing to do with his love of Porto more the adrenaline of the situation. The fact Edwards replicated this twice in the space of ten days suggests he's either very easily over excited or realised doing so draws all the attention to him and less so to the players on the pitch.

Then I could just be being cynical again?

 

[Tony Towner]

I don’t buy this at all. He played for us a a bit, he’s not a fan. It’s like the relationship thousands of previous players have with clubs. He logically took the gig because it was way more money, a crazy good contract because the CEO had lost touch with reality and back near his family. I don’t blame him at all, but he’s not here doing us a favour with his legendarily badly dealt hand.

You can note these pretty clear things and still be over the moon we’re winning by the way. For most employees the basic incentive to perform well to keep their job is a reasonable motivator. If it kept working then hooray for that too. And why not take the sour grapes of long standing Boro season ticket holders seriously? When ours are not we cry foul for superficial understanding of what’s really going on at our club, and rightly so too.

The 'it's his club' rhetoric doesn't hold up to any scrutiny. You'd think from the spin he was a club legend rather than a guy who spent most of his time here injured or a sub. Didn't come through the youth team or grow up a Wolves fan. He'd shit on us as quickly as he did the others if it was right for him. None of that matters if he does a good job, but I'm not having how much it means to him because it's Wolves.

 

[Mel Evo]

You can obviously be cynical about it (I certainly was after the Villa game) and if you think of the most famous touchline dash of all time. Mourinho at Old Trafford which had nothing to do with his love of Porto more the adrenaline of the situation. The fact Edwards replicated this twice in the space of ten days suggests he's either very easily over excited or realised doing so draws all the attention to him and less so to the players on the pitch.

Then I could just be being cynical again?

I’m actually not the arsed about him legging around in front of me. I was happy too. I was more arsed about the 3 months of filth he served up. I can’t unsee those December home games. As Barry Glendenning put it, if he’s getting a tune out them now, he’s spent a bloody long time tuning up before deciding to play.

 

[Tony Towner]

I’m actually not the arsed about him legging around in front of me. I was happy too. I was more arsed about the 3 months of filth he served up. I can’t unsee those December home games. As Barry Glendenning put it, if he’s getting a tune out them now, he’s spent a bloody long time tuning up before deciding to play.

Tim Spiers suggested Edwards has used their personal motivations now that the World Cup/their moves are approaching to get that tune out of them when he couldn't previously. I think that came from a quote from the manager himself. I think there's something in that along with the twats being fucked off and therefore not dragging morale down.

 

[Mel Evo]

Tim Spiers suggested Edwards has used their personal motivations now that the World Cup/their moves are approaching to get that tune out of them when he couldn't previously. I think that came from a quote from the manager himself. I think there's something in that along with the twats being fucked off and therefore not dragging morale down.

It did look like that midfield performance was night and day compared to just two weeks ago. That’s the bit that jars. This isn’t linear improvement, that’s lazy journalism. Could a different manager have exacted that step change before Christmas? I think so. Not that I think we were ever going to appoint someone of the required calibre.

 

[Derby Wolf]

The 'it's his club' rhetoric doesn't hold up to any scrutiny. You'd think from the spin he was a club legend rather than a guy who spent most of his time here injured or a sub. Didn't come through the youth team or grow up a Wolves fan. He'd shit on us as quickly as he did the others if it was right for him. None of that matters if he does a good job, but I'm not having how much it means to him because it's Wolves.

This is where I'm at.

111 appearances and the narrative going on like it's 411 appearances

 

[Lupo]

the most famous touchline dash of all time. Mourinho at Old Trafford

Showing my age, thought it was David Pleat in his grey slip ons!

 

[Tony Towner]

Showing my age, thought it was David Pleat in his grey slip ons!

That was on the pitch rather than the touchline

 

[Lupo]

That was on the pitch rather than the touchline

I knew someone would spoil it by being factual

 

[Alan]

I don’t buy this at all. He played for us a a bit, he’s not a fan. It’s like the relationship thousands of previous players have with clubs. He logically took the gig because it was way more money, a crazy good contract because the CEO had lost touch with reality and back near his family. I don’t blame him at all, but he’s not here doing us a favour with his legendarily badly dealt hand.

You can note these pretty clear things and still be over the moon we’re winning by the way. For most employees the basic incentive to perform well to keep their job is a reasonable motivator. If it kept working then hooray for that too. And why not take the sour grapes of long standing Boro season ticket holders seriously? When ours are not we cry foul for superficial understanding of what’s really going on at our club, and rightly so too.

RE doesn't have to be in love with Wolves to have a different relationship with us than he does with Boro, Luton, Forest Green, etc. He played for us, whatever small connection that is is still more than he's got with any of the other three. That's a pretty clear thing, IMO. I'm not out here claiming he's Totti for God's sake.

Supporters of Boro, FGR, or whoever else don't really move the needle with me after yesterday. I think the cynicism here is a bit much. What, he can't get excited for more than himself? I don't get it.

Regardless, I'm not on the side of "oh boy Wolves are his life" but that excitement looked totally genuine and he was with the supporters in that moment. Trying to tear that down is just. I dunno, feels like making an effort to find something to be annoyed by. Or otherwise make it congruous with pre-existing views.

 

[Mel Evo]

RE doesn't have to be in love with Wolves to have a different relationship with us than he does with Boro, Luton, Forest Green, etc. He played for us, whatever small connection that is is still more than he's got with any of the other three. That's a pretty clear thing, IMO. I'm not out here claiming he's Totti for God's sake.

Supporters of Boro, FGR, or whoever else don't really move the needle with me after yesterday. I think the cynicism here is a bit much. What, he can't get excited for more than himself? I don't get it.

Regardless, I'm not on the side of "oh boy Wolves are his life" but that excitement looked totally genuine and he was with the supporters in that moment. Trying to tear that down is just. I dunno, feels like making an effort to find something to be annoyed by. Or otherwise make it congruous with pre-existing views.

But I’ve said I don’t mind him being excited. So that’s irrelevant, it’s not being torn down. I do think the rest of the shtick is bullshit, but I’ve pointed out why that’s logical and the connection stuff is credulous bollocks so I’ll just leave it there.