Trump

[Alan]

The shite from Trump kind of forces their hand doesnt it.

Saying you are sending a "hospital" ship could be seen as the USA are actually sending in troops ready for his land grab...so they have to release the truth.

Maybe I have the timeline mixed up. I thought the Danish statement came first.

 

[Kenny]

Maybe I have the timeline mixed up. I thought the Danish statement came first.

You are probably correct as I am just picking up parts of the story.

 

[Keef]

I think he was embarrassed that Greenland evacuated and are looking after the crewman, so he’s sending the medical ship to show America can look after its troops.
He won’t send it, he’s probably forgotten about it already.

 

[EdgeOfTheAlps]

I think he was embarrassed that Greenland evacuated and are looking after the crewman, so he’s sending the medical ship to show America can look after its troops.
He won’t send it, he’s probably forgotten about it already.

He cant...its out of service

 

[Kenny]

He cant...its out of service

Facts don't exist in Trump world.

He has told the MAGACult its happening therefore it is happening.

Their attention will be diverted in a few days leaving behind the memory of Trump's heroic decision to send the ship to help poor old Greenland.

 

[Alan]

Yeah, the modus operandi of this administration is "say whatever, say it loudly, say it a lot".

A lot of folks in the US won't have a clue that the Navy only has two hospital ships or that they're both undergoing maintenance in drydock at Alabama Shipyard in Mobile, Alabama. USNS Mercy is based in San Diego, meaning it wouldn't be sent in the first place as it is responsible for Indo-Pacific operations. USNS Comfort is based in Virginia and would be the actual ship to be sent. The Comfort is doubly complicated because it only arrived at Alabama Shipyard last month. For reference, the Mercy docked for maintenance at Alabama Shipyard at the beginning of summer last year. So it could be another 6 months before the Comfort can even leave drydock, at which point it would then need to sail all the way around the Florida Keys, get up to Virginia to dock at home, resupply (and possibly incur some wet maintenance, which would take even more time), and then set off for Greenland. So we're talking 9-12 months at absolute minimum, IMO.

 

[Mel Evo]

Yeah, the modus operandi of this administration is "say whatever, say it loudly, say it a lot".

A lot of folks in the US won't have a clue that the Navy only has two hospital ships or that they're both undergoing maintenance in drydock at Alabama Shipyard in Mobile, Alabama. USNS Mercy is based in San Diego, meaning it wouldn't be sent in the first place as it is responsible for Indo-Pacific operations. USNS Comfort is based in Virginia and would be the actual ship to be sent. The Comfort is doubly complicated because it only arrived at Alabama Shipyard last month. For reference, the Mercy docked for maintenance at Alabama Shipyard at the beginning of summer last year. So it could be another 6 months before the Comfort can even leave drydock, at which point it would then need to sail all the way around the Florida Keys, get up to Virginia to dock at home, resupply (and possibly incur some wet maintenance, which would take even more time), and then set off for Greenland. So we're talking 9-12 months at absolute minimum, IMO.

In short, Sam the Submariner is really regretting that trip to the knocking shop in Reykjavik right now.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Given the success Ukraine had against the Russian fleet in the Black Sea might be a good idea to have a hospital ship available in the vicinity of the fleet of ships assembling within striking distance of Iran.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Going to take quite a bit to sink the Gerald R Ford. It's about the size of Low Hill.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Going to take quite a bit to sink the Gerald R Ford. It's about the size of Low Hill.

Hmm, has a very large ship ever been declared unsinkable? Admittedly not many icebergs in the Gulf.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

It is beyond vast. It makes the titanic look like a fishing boat. Plus it has an entire fleet around it for protection. You aren't getting close.

Aircraft carriers and indeed most very large warships tend to have fully operational hospital facilities on board. Dedicated hospital ships are a bit of an anachronism now. They were really only useful as the laws of war say you aren't allowed to attack one that is clearly marked (although the olympic was sunk with a bloody great red cross on its side in the day).

The GRF really has pretty much everything. I think (but this could well be apocryphal) there is a McDonalds on it.

 

[Keef]

Looks as though you don’t have to sink it to get rid of it, 80% of the toilets on board aren’t working, they’re backing up and the floors about 6 inches deep in sewage, been trying to fix them properly since 2023, pipes are too small and prone to blocking, 32 incidents reported last year, 12 this year, a $400,000 a time chemical flush is the only way to fix it at the minute.
US aircraft carrier toilet problems on a google search gives the info and videos

 

[Alan]

Military seacraft are just unbelievable pieces of engineering. Aircraft carriers particularly require an act of God to be sunk. When CV America (commissioned in 1965) was scuttled by internal explosives in 2005, it was after being hit by underwater explosives and missiles daily for almost four weeks. Note that it still required scuttling afterward.

Its wreck is off the coast of North Carolina, incidentally. Maybe because it was a Kitty Hawk class.

Semi-related: Military submarines being soft to the touch will never leave my brain. It almost gives me the heebie jeebies.