Trump

[Tredman]

hmm

https://bsky.app/profile/adamserwer.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3mc45t3r7ts2k

 

[visage]

Regarding the whole 'Become VP then ascend to the prsidency' strategy, the 12th amendment says:

'But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.'

So by the time of the next election, because hes not eligible to be president hes not eligible to be VP. Some have speculated that theres some wriggle room in the wording, but the intent is clear.

 

[Dennisons Wrong Foot]

There will 100% be elections in November 2028. Short of World War III nothing will stop them.* If the current president is popular enough he will want them to go ahead. If he is not popular then he will have lost grip on his own party. The overwhelming majority of republicans are ordinary people who believe in democracy (american style). Any attempt to scrap the constitution would be met with mass resistance in every state, from politicians of all persuasions, and from military leaders.

* WW III would be the end of every country.

 

[Law's Bus]

The overwhelming majority of republicans are ordinary people who believe in democracy (american style). Any attempt to scrap the constitution would be met with mass resistance in every state, from politicians of all persuasions, and from military leaders.

I'm glad you're convinced of that, because I'm absolutely not.

Otherwise they'd have not voted for someone who actively tried to destroy democracy in whipping up mobs to attack the Capitol building, then totally rewrite history. Otherwise they'd not have a bunch of people in both Houses who actively vote for his rubbish, and who use the same tactics as Trump. Otherwise they'd accept elections where they lose instead of crying "fraud!" when there's no evidence of it being so.

 

[Tredman]

That’s not what they voted for, a lot of people voted against the democrats. It was wrong and they are reaping the consequences of that, but they did not vote for project 2025 etc.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

That’s not what they voted for, a lot of people voted against the democrats. It was wrong and they are reaping the consequences of that, but they did not vote for project 2025 etc.

I would agree with you.....if they hadn't done it twice.

 

[Alan]

He's already talking about cancelling this year's elections. Because the Democrats are somehow training people to weaponize their vehicles.

I hope Noem gets a B.C. death penalty. Maybe the milk and honey canoe.

 

[Alan]

I would agree with you.....if they hadn't done it twice.

Tred is right IMO; Trump is a vicious lash-out against an entirely broken political system. Unfortunately, like most fascists, he has convinced far, far too many that the answer isn't that the system is broken, but that it is being broken by, well, whatever group he decides should be at fault.

It's so god damned Nazi that hearing people actually side with Ross is... Well, I don't own a gun.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

They've voted for him twice.

They haven't learnt from their mistake, why would they now!?

He still has a 39% approval rating.

Starmer has 18% by comparison.

 

[leedswolf]

Regarding the whole 'Become VP then ascend to the prsidency' strategy, the 12th amendment says:

'But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.'

So by the time of the next election, because hes not eligible to be president hes not eligible to be VP. Some have speculated that theres some wriggle room in the wording, but the intent is clear.

12 Amendment provides that “no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.”

The 12th Amendment does not say that someone who is ineligible to be elected President could not be Vice President. Accordingly, the 22nd Amendment leaves open a loophole that an individual could be elected to the Vice Presidency (or the Speakership of the House), then rise to the Presidency.

The 22nd Amendment doesn't say what you think it says

Contrary to popular belief, the 22nd Amendment to the US Constitution does not actually prohibit a third term for a President.

cornerstonelaw.us

 

[Alan]

They've voted for him twice.

They haven't learnt from their mistake, why would they now!?

It says a lot about how much Biden failed in his term.

When people have no legitimate levers of power to pull, they'll reach for whatever they can. Trump (and Bernie, to an extent, though getting into that is a different conversation), for all his faults, presented someone to them who could not possibly have been less "political" in his demeanor.

The folks defending Jonathan Ross? I have no more time, energy, or recuperative philosophy to devote to them, whatever their initial draw to Trumpism was. I've never hated an abstract cohort of people so much. Hopefully they can all manage to get buried alive or something.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

When you see things like that shooting the other day you think it will change things, but somehow it makes things even worse.

It's beyond belief.

 

[Alan]

It's impossible for me to square anymore.

You learn all these things about how awful the Nazis were, the... I mean, what even is the word to describe them? Worse than inhuman. When we learn about WW2 in school here, there is no wiggling whatsoever: these people were bad, evil, point blank period (uh, just don't ask where we got Wernher von Braun from).

And then you see people defending a man casually strolling away from having just murdered a woman, with nearly a dozen cameras pointed at him, carrying on as if it's all business as usual. And suddenly the Nazis weren't bad guys anymore. After all, if you didn't want to be kidnapped or killed by the SS, you'd simply have done whatever they told you, all the time. That'd keep you safe, right?

Right?

 

[Tredman]

There are definitely way more protests here now than there were in October. Does feel like it is building.

 

[Alan]

One way or another, I think I'll be living in a very different place on Jan 11th, 2027.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Trump was bad first time round but compared to his first year of his second term it was very mild. This time he’s gone full throttle ahead fascist. The main hope has to be there is a silent majority that voted for him that cannot stomach his lies, assuming of course they get a vote. The alternatives are someone taking him out or a release of Epstein files that turn sufficient Republicans against him.

 

[leedswolf]

Smithsonian swaps Trump portrait and removes mention of impeachments

National Portrait Gallery removes text on new portrait of Trump standing in Oval Office with a scowl and fists on desk

www.theguardian.com

 

[darlowolf64]

Just whitewash history... It's the way forward

 

[leedswolf]

Family seeks answers after ICE deported man to Costa Rica in vegetative state

Exclusive: Before Randall Gamboa Esquivel died, his health had deteriorated badly while he was in ICE custody

www.theguardian.com