The Race to be Relegated with Wolves, 24/25 Thread

[jd1981]

That point actually works the other way doesn't it?

Despite all the things that were against us, we won a game very few expected us to.

Neves, Moutinho, Adama, Boly, Saiss, Coady, Patricio, Jonny, Jota in the squad made it a possibility.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Neves, Moutinho, Adama, Boly, Saiss, Coady, Patricio, Jonny, Jota in the squad made it a possibility.

Obvs.

I'm not going to put money on it, and I don't expect us to get anything from the Villa game.

But I don't agree with this certainty you have that we will lose to Villa, things happen in football.

Just like yesterday, if Cunha scores a simple chance we likely get a result from a game no one would ever have expected to.

Football isn't logical.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Neves, Moutinho, Adama, Boly, Saiss, Coady, Patricio, Jonny, Jota in the squad made it a possibility.

Villa’s squad was good enough to qualify for the CL. Ours came 7th. They’re a good side but nevertheless they struggle after CL games.

 

[jd1981]

I'm not going to put money on it, and I don't expect us to get anything from the Villa game.

But I don't agree with this certainty you have that we will lose to Villa, things happen in football.

Just like yesterday, if Cunha scores a simple chance we likely get a result from a game no one would ever have expected to.

Football isn't logical.

At what point have I said it will be a certain defeat?

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

15 games left and being 2 points from safety v 11 games left and being 4-6 points away and on the back of a poor run is completely different situation.

Here?

 

[jd1981]

Villa’s squad was good enough to qualify for the CL. Ours came 7th. They’re a good side but nevertheless they struggle after CL games.

3 of those games were away v Chelsea, Forest, Liverpool, another was a home draw v Bournemouth. They’ve won 1 game post CL v ourselves. The results above could’ve easily occurred regardless of a CL campaign.
Let’s go all the way back to the original the point I was making which seems to have been lost.
In 1 month it could be we’re 4-6 points away from safety based on who we’re and Ipswich are playing. At no point have I made a definite statement that it’s guaranteed. Just used some pretty solid evidence to suggest it could well happen.

 

[jd1981]

Here?

What am I responding to so it has context?
I’ll do it for you goes back to my original points that the IF I emphasise this word. We ended up 4-6 points adrift we would struggle to recover mentally. You responded with “I’m sure Leicester fans were thinking the same before today”
It’s at this point I made the above comment to give a contrast in situation.
So that isn’t me saying it’s a certainty we’ll lose it’s myself putting into context a possible situation and how it could affect the side mentally.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

What am I responding to so it has context?
I’ll do it for you goes back to my original points that the IF I emphasise this word. We ended up 4-6 points adrift we would struggle to recover mentally. You responded with “I’m sure Leicester fans were thinking the same before today”
It’s at this point I made the above comment to give a contrast in situation.
So that isn’t me saying it’s a certainty we’ll lose it’s myself putting into context a possible situation and how it could affect the side mentally.

And you'd have thought that 7 successive defeats for Leicester would have effected them so badly there was no chance they'd have won today despite Spurs issues!

The same applies to us, in my opinion.

 

[jd1981]

And you'd have thought that 7 successive defeats for Leicester would have effected them so badly there was no chance they'd have won today despite Spurs issues!

The same applies to us, in my opinion.

What do you use to make future predictions?
Again I’m banging my head against a wall, there’s no certainty and have never said it’s a definite thing we’ll lose the next 3.
I’ve simply stated a very possible scenario based on some pretty hard evidence:
League position
Playing staff
Recent form
That’s all you can use really to be objective

 

[prawnking]

If Bruno Lage can beat them at Villa Park then we can realistically beat them on Saturday.

I'd feel more confident if some of the other elements I mentioned earlier (signings and use of youth) were in play for the game though.

But even if we can get Toti back starting as LCB and get Agba in a more natural position for him that would be a start

 

[jd1981]

If Bruno Lage can beat them at Villa Park then we can realistically beat them on Saturday.

I'd feel more confident if some of the other elements I mentioned earlier (signings and use of youth) were in play for the game though.

But even if we can get Toti back starting as LCB and get Agba in a more natural position for him that would be a start

Gap was smaller then and we still had the remainder parts of what was a good side.
To add Dean Smith was manager of Villa that day to. We finished above them in the league also.
It’s not the worst time to face them nevertheless I think we’re clinging to small bits of hope.

 

[GLASGOWOLF]

Just had some info from a good friend.

The camp is far from a Happy one, VP, has his work cut out keeping it a team.

From the Info I am putting a wedge on relegation, we stay up only with one camp, and we are far from that

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I am not remotely "in the know"

But I could have told you that!

 

[Kenny]

I am not remotely "in the know"

But I could have told you that!

A team losing, ex-captain desperate to leave, key player backing away from a new contract...and you get unhappy camp from just that?

 

[Tony Towner]

We were all told how united the squad was for the first half of the season and that was a car crash. It was always going to be different under Pereira. We knew what he was, we knew what he was going to bring. If a few noses have been put out of joint that's not necessarily a bad thing, but he needs players who think they are his, to replace them which isn't the Shi way.

We are here because a more traditional manager wouldn't touch us.

 

[jd1981]

Put it this way the better players in the squad must look around the dressing room on match day and think FFS.
Wouldn’t surprise me if little clique’s have developed in the changing room.
If you could guarantee it was just 1 season of the EFL and we could sweep away this awful squad I’d take it but it doesn’t work like that.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Everton 2-0 up against Leicester in 7 minutes.

Probably good news for us.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Southampton in front at Portman Road. Hold on to that lead you useless bastards!

Yes I know I said a few weeks ago that we shouldn't worry too much about other teams. But we've gone absolutely rubbish since, so any port in a storm.

 

[Banjo]

Southampton in front at Portman Road. Hold on to that lead you useless bastards!

Yes I know I said a few weeks ago that we shouldn't worry too much about other teams. But we've gone absolutely rubbish since, so any port in a storm.

Ugh

 

[prawnking]

Soton probably collapse now