The NFL Thread

[Tony Towner]

Tbh I don't see anything in it other than a sporting injury. You can't go high, so you are going to go low. I will admit I've never played the game, so that comment is observational rather than knowledgeable

 

[PuntsWolf]

Not saying it’s illegal or anything, it’s the game. But just chopping someone down like that at speed is always going to end badly. It’s just funny how a 100% guaranteed injury is legal but if your momentum accidentally and harmlessly carries you into a QB half a second late then it’s 15 yards. Same as when the QB is open field runner, you go to tackle and then fraction of a second later they start a slide and you hit them. Some of those hits are brainless but a lot of the time I think the DB is screwed either way.

 

[Alan]

Unfortunately the bit that makes tackling at the knees so dangerous also makes it very effective. Players use it as a crutch and coaches encourage it. It's a legitimate cultural problem.

 

[big mean bunny]

The arguement is not helped by the rule this year that prevents low blocks on the lead blocker outside the tackle block. I actually disagree with that as it usually then leads to a DB having to square upright with an in motion lineman, but if you are protecting the lower body of those guys why not everyone else?

 

[Alan]

Idea there is that linemen are often already engaged up high. Low blocks are illegal in that instance but not if the lineman isn’t already engaged with an opponent.

If that’s changed for this season I haven’t seen it called as such.

 

[PuntsWolf]

Laughably bad coaching/play calling from the Browns. Averaging 8 yards a carry since the first play yet decide to let Baker throw it to the opposition.

Decide to run it second half and get into a postion to win the game as a result, despite 3 INTs. 1st and 10 on the 50, minute left and 3 TOs. FG wins it. Surely you run it and see what you get? Then you can either run it again, PA or an easy quick pass. Nope, put the ball back in my useless QBs hands and throw incomplete. OK, 2nd and 10. Run it now and see what we get and try and get a doable 3rd down. Nope incomplete. Oh shit, now it’s 3rd and 10 and we’ve got to throw it - INT number 4.

None of that makes any sense to me. Your strength is running the ball, your succeeding at running the ball, you’ve been shit at passing. Run the ball!

 

[PuntsWolf]

The first one is a bad call but the face mask could easily get missed. Still, that’s not why they lost.

 

[Johnny75]

The first one is a bad call but the face mask could easily get missed. Still, that’s not why they lost.

It isn't but that's a tough one not to get PI on the 3rd and 10. It would've put them in FG range.

 

[WsWolf]

Laughably bad coaching/play calling from the Browns. Averaging 8 yards a carry since the first play yet decide to let Baker throw it to the opposition.

Decide to run it second half and get into a postion to win the game as a result, despite 3 INTs. 1st and 10 on the 50, minute left and 3 TOs. FG wins it. Surely you run it and see what you get? Then you can either run it again, PA or an easy quick pass. Nope, put the ball back in my useless QBs hands and throw incomplete. OK, 2nd and 10. Run it now and see what we get and try and get a doable 3rd down. Nope incomplete. Oh shit, now it’s 3rd and 10 and we’ve got to throw it - INT number 4.

None of that makes any sense to me. Your strength is running the ball, your succeeding at running the ball, you’ve been shit at passing. Run the ball!

You'd think the fact Mayfield is wank would at least influence this aswell but, no.

 

[Dire Wolf]

Josh Allen playing out of his skin in this game against the Pats.

 

[Alan]

If Buffalo flames out this season they probably move on from him. This is his time to be the franchise QB everyone says he can be.

 

[Johnny75]

If Buffalo flames out this season they probably move on from him. This is his time to be the franchise QB everyone says he can be.

Move on?

He's been pretty good this year. I'd take him in NO if they want to trade him.

 

[Dire Wolf]

If Buffalo flames out this season they probably move on from him. This is his time to be the franchise QB everyone says he can be.

Ridiculous statement. They've just given him a 7 year $245m contract. He's a top 5 QB in the NFL and has carried this Bills team on his back all year despite having no o-line or RBs. He's already a franchise QB and if you can't see that you have obviously never watched him play, just listened to the crap spouted by some media idiots. He has been sensational and should be in MVP consideration.

 

[Tony Towner]

No chance. He's a Top 10 QB at worst, weak draft class and don't really have the capital to make a run at Watson or Wilson unless they mortgage the next 3 years

 

[Alan]

There have still been questions over whether or not he really is worth that money, though. When I say, "they probably move on from him", I should have been clear that I meant it in a cultural sense around the team. Everything is set up for them to succeed again this year, they've given Allen the money and told him he's the guy, now he has to go earn that cash.

If he doesn't, I suspect there will be many who think he's never going to be the answer. He'd become a very useful trade chip at that point.

Just my opinion obv.

 

[Johnny75]

He's not in MVP for a good reason but he's been very good.

Not sure he's a top 5 QB either (Mahomes, Rodgers, Brady, Herbert and Prescott are all better in my opinion).

 

[Dire Wolf]

No chance. He's a Top 10 QB at worst, weak draft class and don't really have the capital to make a run at Watson or Wilson unless they mortgage the next 3 years

Top 16? He's put together back to back MVP calibre seasons. There might be 4 or 5 QBs in the league better than him. But there might not be that many.

 

[Dire Wolf]

He's not in MVP for a good reason but he's been very good.

Not sure he's a top 5 QB either (Mahomes, Rodgers, Brady, Herbert and Prescott are all better in my opinion).

Herbert and Prescott are not better than Allen. He literally is the entire offense. Check his numbers. He's having an MVP calibre season.

 

[Johnny75]

Top 16? He's put together back to back MVP calibre seasons. There might be 3 or QBs in the league better than him. But there might not be that many.

That's as silly as Alan's post.

 

[Dire Wolf]

Its really not.