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Tredman
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Do you smoke cigarettes?
Alan
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I do vape nicotine when I can’t keep the green stuff around (you pick up bad habits after half a decade slinging coffee at folks, I suppose).
Helps but is very fleeting.
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Do you vape with mraijuana too? If you smoke it in joints with tobacco it could partly be nicotine addiction you're feeling.. Very odd way of doing it but replacing one compulsion with another might be good in the longer term.
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I gave up cigarettes in 1997. Since then have only smoked cannabis (with tobacco obvs). I don't vape.
I don't only smoke weed though. When I was younger, you could get weed that wasn't skunk, and some of this shit nowadays is too fucking powerful imo. I regularly acquire resin instead.
I have times when I worry about dependency/intake. I don't smoke a lot. It's way way cheaper than most people I know spend on alcohol. My partaking is cautious. I smoke around 4 a day (more at weekends on holidays, but it is rare it goes above 6 a day).
At the same time, everyone has a vice. Mine helps me chil, severely helps me love music, and although it is every day, doesn't feel out of control.
Am I self justifying addiction? or am I managing it well? I dunno.
I have spoken with my mum once, she got upset saying she felt a failure having raised a child who takes drugs. But so many other areas of my life are managed ok.
I did find when lockdown started and I was wfh my intake increased. A lot of that was due to having the opportunity. Important to have personal boundaries. I stopped having one first thing when I woke up. Then I moved to cut out one on my morning break. Next step will be to cut out the one at lunch time.
The majority of the time I don't feel I have a problem. Important thing is to remember that it has to be you using the drug, whatever drug it is. if the drug starts using you, then there is a serious issue.
I don't only smoke weed though. When I was younger, you could get weed that wasn't skunk, and some of this shit nowadays is too fucking powerful imo. I regularly acquire resin instead.
I have times when I worry about dependency/intake. I don't smoke a lot. It's way way cheaper than most people I know spend on alcohol. My partaking is cautious. I smoke around 4 a day (more at weekends on holidays, but it is rare it goes above 6 a day).
At the same time, everyone has a vice. Mine helps me chil, severely helps me love music, and although it is every day, doesn't feel out of control.
Am I self justifying addiction? or am I managing it well? I dunno.
I have spoken with my mum once, she got upset saying she felt a failure having raised a child who takes drugs. But so many other areas of my life are managed ok.
I did find when lockdown started and I was wfh my intake increased. A lot of that was due to having the opportunity. Important to have personal boundaries. I stopped having one first thing when I woke up. Then I moved to cut out one on my morning break. Next step will be to cut out the one at lunch time.
The majority of the time I don't feel I have a problem. Important thing is to remember that it has to be you using the drug, whatever drug it is. if the drug starts using you, then there is a serious issue.
Not blowing me own trumpet here but never done drugs of any kind, and only smoked a couple of cigarettes whilst at school and that was only because who I hung around with were trying them at the time. Drugs, even weed has always frightened me, how would I feel, how would it make me behave, what would it do to my head etc. Which is daft really because I drink alcohol, love me red wine and also the odd pint or two, and although it's never made me get up and dance on tables it does sometimes make me miss the end of a programme, gives me giggles, and a fuzzy head on a Sunday morning.
A lot of us have vices of some kind, mines red wine
A lot of us have vices of some kind, mines red wine
Nahhh, I'll stick to me Cab, Merlot, Shiraz, Pinot Noir, and Malbec......to be honest I couldn't afford weed aswell!
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I did most drugs recreationally when I was younger. I'm not proud of it but equally I don't think I should be ashamed either, I'm very much in the freedom of choice camp when it comes to what people put into their bodies.
It was mainly ecstacy and speed, it was quite dangerous looking back on the quantities my friends and I used to do, even typing this is mental but I could get through 30 ecstacy tablets in a weekend in my early twenties. Generally we wouldn't sleep from Thursday night until Sunday night, feel absolutely horrendous Monday to Thursday at about 3pm and then do it all over again. I've not touched any drugs, except alcohol for probably at least 12 years.
Before we started really going out clubbing, my friends and I went through a period of about 18 months where we'd sit in and smoke loads of weed, pretty much every night - looking back, and obviously everyone varies massively, of all the drugs I've done, weed was the most dangerous for me - towards the end of that period I was in a really really bad place psychologically, I mean hearing voices, thinking people could read my thoughts, proper scary shit. I think much longer and I could have developed full blown schizophrenia. I made a decision that I needed to stop it completely and I've not touched it since my very early twenties. I do still think that I was altered in some way by the experience though.
It's funny that of all the recreational drugs, weed would probably be the one I'd worry about my kids taking the most.
It was mainly ecstacy and speed, it was quite dangerous looking back on the quantities my friends and I used to do, even typing this is mental but I could get through 30 ecstacy tablets in a weekend in my early twenties. Generally we wouldn't sleep from Thursday night until Sunday night, feel absolutely horrendous Monday to Thursday at about 3pm and then do it all over again. I've not touched any drugs, except alcohol for probably at least 12 years.
Before we started really going out clubbing, my friends and I went through a period of about 18 months where we'd sit in and smoke loads of weed, pretty much every night - looking back, and obviously everyone varies massively, of all the drugs I've done, weed was the most dangerous for me - towards the end of that period I was in a really really bad place psychologically, I mean hearing voices, thinking people could read my thoughts, proper scary shit. I think much longer and I could have developed full blown schizophrenia. I made a decision that I needed to stop it completely and I've not touched it since my very early twenties. I do still think that I was altered in some way by the experience though.
It's funny that of all the recreational drugs, weed would probably be the one I'd worry about my kids taking the most.
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also me and Al at molineux - pass the mars bars dude?
genuine story by the way. LJ and Lycan walking to the stadium. LJ having a not very discreet toot on the way. Lycan mentions having never smelt so much weed at a wolves game before.
LJ; er, yeah. sorry, that'd be me...
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Weed fucking stinks, man.
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Never took you for a fucking narc.
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Alcohol (depressant) and caffeine (stimulant) are drugs and the sooner people normalise drug taking as something the vast majority do the better. I spent the thick end of a decade managing pubs and had my fill of seeing the effects alcohol has short and long term
Dabbled with 'recreationals' in my early-mid twenties. Mostly speed/MDMA and tried Mushrooms at a festival. The key really is having a safe environment to experience them, we had a friend who wasn't interested in trying and although we never did would provide full disclosure if we needed medical assistance.
I know from my particular personality drinking at home - alone, wouldn't be a good idea, the same goes for smoking. Socially, I only really drink on matchdays and smoking is down to 3/4 times a year now.
Dabbled with 'recreationals' in my early-mid twenties. Mostly speed/MDMA and tried Mushrooms at a festival. The key really is having a safe environment to experience them, we had a friend who wasn't interested in trying and although we never did would provide full disclosure if we needed medical assistance.
I know from my particular personality drinking at home - alone, wouldn't be a good idea, the same goes for smoking. Socially, I only really drink on matchdays and smoking is down to 3/4 times a year now.
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agreed. It's why I try not to smoke it in public where-ever possible.
It was an emergency (not a real one obvs).
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I’ve always thought of smoking weed as something you do when you’re in your teens/early twenties. I find it weird when people still smoke it when they get passed that but each to their own. I guess there are worse vices to have.
I agree it stinks though. Our neighbours smoke it all the time. It’s particularly great when my kids are playing in the garden and it’s wafting across over the fence.
I agree it stinks though. Our neighbours smoke it all the time. It’s particularly great when my kids are playing in the garden and it’s wafting across over the fence.
Not blowing me own trumpet here but never done drugs of any kind, and only smoked a couple of cigarettes whilst at school and that was only because who I hung around with were trying them at the time. Drugs, even weed has always frightened me, how would I feel, how would it make me behave, what would it do to my head etc. Which is daft really because I drink alcohol, love me red wine and also the odd pint or two, and although it's never made me get up and dance on tables it does sometimes make me miss the end of a programme, gives me giggles, and a fuzzy head on a Sunday morning.
A lot of us have vices of some kind, mines red wine
Same here, a couple of choking Bensons at school, a couple of ineffective puffs of weed on a joint being passed round at a party decades ago. That’s about it.
I could never really understand any of it until I started looking at drugs as ANY ‘mood-adjusting’ substance. Throw alcohol into that mix and I guess we are almost all at it. Made me think about the almost inbuilt need to make ourselves feel better. Drugs in all forms are a pretty unstoppable force. I guess how we manage our use irrespective of the form is the important bit.
I often wonder if I could live without the pleasure of real ale or red wine, both the mood-adjusting aspect and the social interaction too. Maybe, I dunno, it would be very very hard. Beer when in a pub and red wine with a meal. A bit worrying the way food starts to taste bland without it. That’s got to be the very first stepping stone to a dependency and/or alcoholism right?
I kind of fight that thought by making sure there are nights off - meaning I’ve still got control, I think. But, you have that first bit of a craving and it’s tempting. Wouldn’t take too much more for that craving to start to overwhelm. Can understand anyone getting in too deep with any drug before even realising it’s happened. Throw in some difficult circumstances and it must be so bloody hard to pull it back.
Just kind of see it as playing with fire but for some reason or other we all seem to do it. I guess some just get away with it so-to-speak, for others it turns into a nightmare. There but for the grace of god and all that.
I don't drink every night, I make sure I have my nights off. But if I'm honest, the time I enjoy a wine most is when I'm cooking the evening meal, it's my chill out time. Also enjoy a glass with my meal. A pint of ale is only drunk on a match days, not in the house. I just enjoy my red wine, can't stand white. I could have chosen to be a lover of chocolate or cake or biscuits.....but I chose wine
