The Manager Sacked/Hired Thread 2018/19

[Sniffer]

Ultimately, he kept Brighton up (yes, I agree the football on offer was shite, but he had a job to do & did it) and he got them to an FA Cup semi final. If getting Wolves to an FA Cup semi final is a massive achievement for Nuno, it would be incredibly harsh of anyone to suggest it's less of an achievement (if not more, looking at the squads) by Hughton to achieve that with Brighton.

In the end, he will get another PL job soon enough - and Brighton have let him see the season out & now have all summer to plan for next season with a new manager in charge, so it works for everyone.

Knocking out three Championship teams and Bournemouth to reach the FA Cup semi final is less of an achievement than our route there.

 

[Tony Towner]

Looks like it's going to be Graham Potter to replace him. Overachieved in Sweden, has Swansea playing decent football, nevertheless a brave appointment if true.

 

[Derby Wolf]

Very dignified man but he strikes me as Kenny Jackett MAX. He's got a relatively low ceiling where his ideas will dry up and dourness takes over.

Odds on the Swansea manager getting the BHA gig at the moment. Seems a bit left field.

 

[Jinky]

Knocking out three Championship teams and Bournemouth to reach the FA Cup semi final is less of an achievement than our route there.

A semi final is a semi final.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Between them Pellegrino and Hughes got Southampton to the semi-final last season by beating Fulham, Watford, West Brom and Wigan. Didn't save either of them and nor should it have, as their league form was absolute shite and that's what counts.

If you look at the table, only Burnley and Southampton were within striking range of Brighton by the end. And both of those have shown really good form in the second half of the season, Dyche by reverting back to what works for them and Saints by appointing a really good manager. Then it's mid-table teams, Brighton as it stands are miles off Bournemouth who finished 14th. Hughton wasn't showing anything to suggest he could bridge that gap let alone anything else.

 

[Langers]

He's not that dissimilar to McCarthy IMO - his ceiling is a struggle to keep a side in the PL but doesn't possess the tactical nous to kick on any further, which is what Brighton need as a club.

I like Hughton and I hope he returns to the game but I think Brighton have made the correct decision.

 

[jd1981]

Yep spot on timing if you ask me, really don’t subscribe to giving managers the start of a season to see how it goes attitude.
If they start like they’ve finished they’d be making the same decision after 10 games.
Current form is rancid and highly likely to continue into new season, reality is the league is going to be stronger next season especially if Villa come up.

 

[Jinky]

Oh, absolutely. As per my earlier post, the correct time to do it. Gives the club all summer to plan for next season with a new man in charge & it gave Hughton the opportunity to finish the season.

Potter would be an odd replacement.

 

[Johnny75]

The last 10 games form guide

14 Man Utd 10 3 2 5 10 18 -8 11
15 Burnley 10 3 1 6 14 18 -4 10
16 Watford 10 3 1 6 13 19 -6 10
17 Cardiff 10 3 0 7 9 14 -5 9
18 Fulham 10 3 0 7 8 18 -10 9
19 Brighton 10 1 3 6 5 19 -14 6
20 Huddersfid 10 0 2 8 7 26 -19 2

You can see why he got the boot.

 

[Jinky]

The last 10 games form guide

14 Man Utd 10 3 2 5 10 18 -8 11
15 Burnley 10 3 1 6 14 18 -4 10
16 Watford 10 3 1 6 13 19 -6 10
17 Cardiff 10 3 0 7 9 14 -5 9
18 Fulham 10 3 0 7 8 18 -10 9
19 Brighton 10 1 3 6 5 19 -14 6
20 Huddersfid 10 0 2 8 7 26 -19 2

You can see why he got the boot.

Ole :icon_lol:

What are people's thoughts on whether he will still be in charge at the start of next season? Very difficult decision for the Utd board. Do they think the problem lies with the manager or the players?

(the answer is both)

 

[Tony Towner]

If they knew they could get Poch after the CL final I think they'd bin Ole now. As it is I think he'll last until Nov/Dec.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I don't think they can climb down that rapidly after giving him a three year deal...but at this point I can't see him being in charge in 2020. So they've made a serious Horlicks of it, again.

That squad is absolute dog dirt. So few players I'd actually want at Wolves. The few good ones largely don't care and the rest are either way past it or nothing like good enough. But even so, Ole seems to have little by way of actual tactical acumen. All his changes tend to be like for like. We outplayed them in the cup, won deservedly, their setup allowed our natural game to thrive, they play us again about three weeks later in the league...and he plays exactly the same way with exactly the same result.

 

[Langers]

Ole :icon_lol:

What are people's thoughts on whether he will still be in charge at the start of next season? Very difficult decision for the Utd board. Do they think the problem lies with the manager or the players?

(the answer is both)

The whole setup at Utd is fucked. Their recruitment is fucked, the players are shite, Ole is out of his depth.

For them to start competing again, they need a MASSIVE change from top to bottom, but there's no sign of that happening. Didn't DW say that they're thinking of appointing Darren Fletcher as DoF?! They're miles behind Liverpool and Man City.

This stat sums it up:

Gap between Wolves in 7th and Cardiff who went down in 18th: 23 points

Gap between Liverpool in 2nd and Chelsea in 3rd: 25 points.

 

[White Wolf]

The sacking of Hughton is deserved. I said it before the Brighton game that I thought he should go even if he kept them up as the football was terrible.

It's like when Mick kept us up the second time - managers do have a ceiling, sometimes their football isn't going to get you any better than a relegation scrap, and going off of their form in the second half of the season I wouldn't fancy them next time around. A new coach at least gives them a fighting chance and maybe an opporunity for the fans to see some exciting football. So sometimes you need to say thank you for the great job you have done, but we need somebody else to take us forwards.

You'll get a lot of people complaining about it (you had people berating us for sacking Mick when we did, even though we gave him much longer than we should and his time was clearly up), how he succeeded by keeping them up on 36 points (terrible return) and 3 wins from 23 but that isn't really acceptable, and there is nothing wrong with wanting to progress under a better manager. Most of the critics you see of these sort of sackings are the sort of fans who support the top 6 and basically think the rest of us should all be happy with our lot rather than trying to improve.

 

[Jinky]

I don't think they can climb down that rapidly after giving him a three year deal...but at this point I can't see him being in charge in 2020. So they've made a serious Horlicks of it, again.

That squad is absolute dog dirt. So few players I'd actually want at Wolves. The few good ones largely don't care and the rest are either way past it or nothing like good enough. But even so, Ole seems to have little by way of actual tactical acumen. All his changes tend to be like for like. We outplayed them in the cup, won deservedly, their setup allowed our natural game to thrive, they play us again about three weeks later in the league...and he plays exactly the same way with exactly the same result.

The whole setup at Utd is fucked. Their recruitment is fucked, the players are shite, Ole is out of his depth.

For them to start competing again, they need a MASSIVE change from top to bottom, but there's no sign of that happening. Didn't DW say that they're thinking of appointing Darren Fletcher as DoF?! They're miles behind Liverpool and Man City.

This stat sums it up:

Gap between Wolves in 7th and Cardiff who went down in 18th: 23 points

Gap between Liverpool in 2nd and Chelsea in 3rd: 25 points.

Haven't they just given new contracts to Ashley Young, Chris Smalling & Phil Jones, as well? :icon_lol:

I can honestly see us finishing above them next season. I know we can't predict another season of results against the 'big boys' like we've had this season - but we will still be very competitive against them and hopefully can improve our squad more over the summer. The key is finding a way to beat the sides that just shove men behind the ball. Do that and we could be set for a very good season.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

They gave Jones a four year deal, the mind boggles. It's like having a spare tyre that only works half the time. And is bald and can't turn corners properly in the first place.

 

[Keef]

I think Utd have got to have a good clear out,sign good quality players and have a good start to the season,if they start badly,he'll be gone by mid September I think.
Did I read somewhere a while ago,they were still paying David moves contract,that's only just finished as well,that's OGS' predecessors,predecessors predecessor!

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Nah, Moyes' contract was due to run until 2019 but that doesn't mean they've paid him right up to now (or even paid him up in full when they sacked him).

Unless you are Venky's then there will pretty much always be a break clause in a long term deal. Plus he's had two jobs since, wouldn't be able to take them if he wasn't all settled up with United.

 

[Metal_Warrior]

David Beckham got more points (6) in the last month than Man Utd got (5).

 

[Keef]

Nah, Moyes' contract was due to run until 2019 but that doesn't mean they've paid him right up to now (or even paid him up in full when they sacked him).

Unless you are Venky's then there will pretty much always be a break clause in a long term deal. Plus he's had two jobs since, wouldn't be able to take them if he wasn't all settled up with United.

Aah right,didn't think they'd still be paying him,but with Woodward in charge you never know,didn't realise he'd had two jobs since