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The Live Match Discussion Thread: 2019/2020

Mings is a disgrace. No way should he be near an England squad.
 
Has Ezri Konsa shown enough to suggest we might go back in for him if they go down?
 
I'm not really sure where to put this, but anyway, here goes.

I saw the high-lights of the Real vs Athletico Madrid game last night, Athletico were clean through just outside the box before the attacker got cynically hacked down to deny an obvious goal scoring opportunity. Player gets sent off and Athletico get a free-kick (with about 5 minutes to go), Real then go on to win on penalties.

It really doesn't feel fair to me that this can happen and saw a suggestion that a DOGSO should result in a penalty even if it's outside the box, with the same rules applying around red / yellow cards (i.e. if you went for the ball it's a yellow, no intent to play the ball it's a red).

Just wondered what people thought?
 
Federico Valverde got MOTM for that red card "tackle" on Morata...
 
Taking one for the team challenge. A big fan of them.
 
Willy Young on Martin Allen of West Ham in the 1980 FA cup final was the archetypal “professional foul”.
 
It was a doozy...

Andy's suggestion of a penalty for an outside the box blatant deliberate denial of a goal scoring opportunity is a good one though...
 

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I'm not really sure where to put this, but anyway, here goes.

I saw the high-lights of the Real vs Athletico Madrid game last night, Athletico were clean through just outside the box before the attacker got cynically hacked down to deny an obvious goal scoring opportunity. Player gets sent off and Athletico get a free-kick (with about 5 minutes to go), Real then go on to win on penalties.

It really doesn't feel fair to me that this can happen and saw a suggestion that a DOGSO should result in a penalty even if it's outside the box, with the same rules applying around red / yellow cards (i.e. if you went for the ball it's a yellow, no intent to play the ball it's a red).

Just wondered what people thought?

Oof, I really dislike them. Also dislike them being painted as some sort of heroic sacrifice. "Well cheated, fella!"

Was reading something recently about Ferguson giving Ole a massive bollocking about integrity for committing one years ago, even if it did save them a point. I'm with him.
 
"The award for the best player had to do with that piece of play... Valverde won the final; It was the most important moment of the match because if the play had continued it would probably have led to a goal. I told him not to worry, anyone would have done what he did in his place, he did what he had to do." - Diego Simeone.

Atleti don't seem to be much annoyed by it. That down to the manager they have, or is this a cultural thing? Would be a massive debate if that happened here.
 
Not sure there would have been that much outrage. Things like this happen all the time, it’s just not that often they happen in cup finals in the last few mins of extra time.
 
It was a doozy...

Andy's suggestion of a penalty for an outside the box blatant deliberate denial of a goal scoring opportunity is a good one though...

Incredibly the late Jimmy Hill suggested something similar in the 70s and it was also a 18 yard penalty kick for professional fouls anywhere iirc?
 
Penalties galore in Naples at the moment.

Hosts currently 2-0 up at the break thanks to two spot kicks but Perugia had just had a chance to pull one back on the stroke of half time from a penalty of their own. Looked a very harsh one to award, Napoli defender lunging in to block a cross and the was deflected up from his leg onto his arm and out for a corner.
 
So Lo Celso goes down in the box, clutching his face like Tyson has just decked him, Goes to VAR no contact with face, no penalty, no foul, why does he not get booked and cut this crap out ?
 
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