The Football News Thread 2023/24

[Johnny75]

I'd be fuming more at Sa in that position.

Like rewind to Newcastle at home in 2021 and he cost us a goal faking an injury. Yeah, you can argue the ref could or should have stopped play as maybe there was a head injury (there wasn't). Or how about tell your keeper "don't be a dickhead".

That's impressive that you've made that about Sa.

The keeper is also at fault for not setting the wall correctly but VAR can easily say the FK wasn't taken from the correct position and to instruct the ref it should be taken from the correct position.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I had visions of Patricio vs Newcastle.

That one I was seething about as it was never ever ever a free kick to start with.

Crap work by Rui on the wall and also might have saved it anyway.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

That's impressive that you've made that about Sa.

The keeper is also at fault for not setting the wall correctly but VAR can easily say the FK wasn't taken from the correct position and to instruct the ref it should be taken from the correct position.

I've not "made it about Sa", I've used an example where perhaps the officials could have saved us but the main fault was down to the goalkeeper not doing his job properly, as it was with Turner yesterday.

 

[Tony Towner]

That's impressive that you've made that about Sa.

The keeper is also at fault for not setting the wall correctly but VAR can easily say the FK wasn't taken from the correct position and to instruct the ref it should be taken from the correct position.

Can it? I don't mean in theory I mean is it within it's jurisdiction?

 

[Johnny75]

Can it? I don't mean in theory I mean is it within it's jurisdiction?

I don't see why not, it would be a clear and obvious error from the officials and the ref can order a retake if they think there is an unfair advantage from moving a FK.

 

[Tony Towner]

I don't see why not, it would be a clear and obvious error from the officials and the ref can order a retake if they think there is an unfair advantage from moving a FK.

They've said they couldn't, doesn't mean they are correct, but the defence is they can't get involved. Guess we'll have to see what Webb comes out with

 

[Johnny75]

They've said they couldn't, doesn't mean they are correct, but the defence is they can't get involved

All goals are reviewed so that's bollocks.

 

[Tony Towner]

All goals are reviewed so that's bollocks.

It's not about whether they are reviewed, it's about what they can be reviewed for, they are claiming the positioning of the ball isn't something they can get involved in. Anyway we'll see what's said this week.

 

[Johnny75]

It's not about whether they are reviewed, it's about what they can be reviewed for, they are claiming the positioning of the ball isn't something they can get involved in. Anyway we'll see what's said this week.

As they can judge on whether a penalty is not on the spot or somebody has moved too early I would say that not being able to get involved is bollocks.

Just an excuse to get them off the hook.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

As they can judge on whether a penalty is not on the spot or somebody has moved too early I would say that not being able to get involved is bollocks.

Just an excuse to get them off the hook.

Yeah that was my first thought.

 

[Tony Towner]

As they can judge on whether a penalty is not on the spot or somebody has moved too early I would say that not being able to get involved is bollocks.

Just an excuse to get them off the hook.

Oh, I agree but I have a strong suspicion about what Webb will say this week

 

[Alan]

Posted it yesterday, but the line VAR reportedly gave NBC was "that's the on-field ref's job to manage".

 

[Lupo]

Posted it yesterday, but the line VAR reportedly gave NBC was "that's the on-field ref's job to manage".

Along the same lines as 'we don't want to re-ref the game'

 

[The Bear]

Along the same lines as 'we don't want to re-ref the game'

Which is another big cop out of theirs.

They're not re-refereeing it they're informing the ref of something which he hasn't seen.

 

[Alan]

Along the same lines as 'we don't want to re-ref the game'

Very much.

I'd like to fly off the handle over it as I do think it's blatant cheating (if there's that large a MoE for FK placement, why not for offside? Why not PKs? Why not for when the ball goes out of play or crosses the goal line?) but equally I don't want to come off as defending Matty T just because he's Matty T and I want him to do well.

 

[PuntsWolf]

I don’t think moving the ball barely 2 foot made enough of a difference to impact the wall. Particularly when the keeper rechecked after he moved it once. He barely puts any whip on it, it goes inside the post comfortably, and clears the wall by a margin (aided by Yates bizarrely jumping inwards…). So I’m not moaning at the officials, more the players.

Not sure if I want VAR pulling that back with it being so minor as where do we draw the line?

 

[The Bear]

Not sure if I want VAR pulling that back with it being so minor as where do we draw the line?

Well you obviously draw the line at any player picking it up and moving it whatsoever once they've put it down initially. And certainly not picking up the foam and moving it.

 

[AndyWolves]

For it to be outside of VARs jurisdiction, they would have to had to sit down and decide the moving the ball at fk's wasn't within their remit. Which is absolute bollocks

 

[Johnny75]

I don’t think moving the ball barely 2 foot made enough of a difference to impact the wall. Particularly when the keeper rechecked after he moved it once. He barely puts any whip on it, it goes inside the post comfortably, and clears the wall by a margin (aided by Yates bizarrely jumping inwards…). So I’m not moaning at the officials, more the players.

Not sure if I want VAR pulling that back with it being so minor as where do we draw the line?

Um, that changed the ball angle which changes the effectiveness of a wall.

 

[AndyWolves]

Is defenders moving foam nearer the ball and shuffling forward ok?