The Cricket Thread

[Deutsch Wolf]

Thing is I've enjoyed a lot of the cricket in this era (we were bloody awful under Silverwood, and I cannot abide Peter fucking Moores). But there's so many issues that could be quite easily solved, and we don't. And Key is a wanker, the way he talks to people is appalling.

 

[Tony Towner]

It's the way he speaks about the errors made like he wasn’t a part of them that I can't abide.

We were too loyal to players - Crawley averages 31 for the last few years, goes to Australia and averages 31. We perhaps could have had a more competitive warm up game in Perth. For a management team who spent the last 18 months saying the Ashes is the goal, to the detriment of team selection in the games beforehand to then say preparation could have been better is ridiculous, then to not take any ownership of that incredulous.

Plus after covering up the Brook situation Key then openly lied about it.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

And there's no consistency. So you'll back Crawley forever but just happily throw away people like Leach, Malan, Woakes, Livingstone, Bairstow (whatever you think of them) and basically not bother explaining or telling them what they need to do?

You go all in on Bashir despite the fact he has basically no track record at all - I think he's alright but got miles to go to be an international first choice spinner - then we'll just abandon that when it comes down to it, and we'll pick Will Jacks, who would probably struggle to lay a claim to being Surrey's best spinner.

 

[Tony Towner]

If Bashir had batted at 8 you could make a case for it, be it a flawed one as Jacks showed. Problem is he's as number 11 as you can get, now been released by Somerset and gone to Derbyshire who haven't had a current England Test player for 24 years.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Yep. Leach would probably rank alongside Giles or Croft if I were listing English Test spinners in my time (behind Swann, Tufnell and Panesar, maybe even Mo but he was always very hit and miss) but he's quite clearly a safer bet than a kid who barely had 10 first class wickets when we called him up.