The Car Thread

[Tredman]

I get that Tesla drivers are evangelists but there is genuinely nothing amazing here. All modern EVs can plan as well as a Tesla

 

[Tredman]

 

[Elvis]

I get that Tesla drivers are evangelists but there is genuinely nothing amazing here. All modern EVs can plan as well as a Tesla

Who said they didn't?

I can do that on the ford app

 

[Tredman]

That’s kinda the point. I’ve had 2 Tesla’s and they were fine, but they are no different to other EVs. They are significantly worse cars though

 

[Elvis]

Each to their own Tredman

 

[Kenny]

Been offered an MG S6 demo by our contact to take down to Devon in a couple of weeks for a customer meeting.
Not sure whether or not to take it up as MG have a terrible rep and dealt with many an unhappy customer.

Wouldn't mind the performance IM5 though...

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I get that Tesla drivers are evangelists but there is genuinely nothing amazing here. All modern EVs can plan as well as a Tesla

It feels similar to Apple fan boys.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Been offered an MG S6 demo by our contact to take down to Devon in a couple of weeks for a customer meeting.
Not sure whether or not to take it up as MG have a terrible rep and dealt with many an unhappy customer.

Wouldn't mind the performance IM5 though...

Old MG or current MG?

Their 7 year warranty is brilliant, and their current electric cars seem to review well?

 

[Kenny]

Old MG or current MG?

Their 7 year warranty is brilliant, and their current electric cars seem to review well?

Part of the latest range from MG.


The MG4 is the one I've had many an issue with. Badly built bag of shit was the general feedback

 

[Tredman]

The IMs look interesting. Not really MGs though?

 

[Kenny]

The IMs look interesting. Not really MGs though?

Made by IM Motors who are owned by the company that has the MG brand. In China they are not being sold as an MG.

MG over here rather than confusing people with another Chinese brand on the market.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Govt reviewing flagship EV sale quotas after biggest car production fall in 73 years | Politics News | Sky News https://share.google/WJO3jncFLT2yfjYQc

 

[Tredman]

Amazing how a crazy increase in pricing for Oil and Oil derivatives prompts an increase in calls for expensive increases in oil production and more reliance on Oil using cars.

 

[EpsomWolf]

Interesting watching how all of this plays out and the only surprising thing is people are surprised. Can see legislation chopping and changing faster the Donald Trump’s overseas policies when trying to fight unintended consequences while keeping the activists happy and revenue streams at the required level too.

Always been a bit suspicious that the opportunity for some social engineering during the transition was going to prove too tempting and looks like that’s going to be happening, the degree to which is anyone’s guess. The proposals around the weight levy will go some way to achieving that and eventually have us all in microcars if I suppose you want to go all conspiracy theorist around that.

I dunno, EV’s have pretty much all of the arguments won now so even as a petrol head I’m not sure why restarting ICE production will make that much of a difference in boosting sales. Maybe those with the resources to switch. who also have the opportunity of the quite fundamental home charging will continue to do so and it always felt the loudest advocates were those in that camp. They can have the roads to themselves while others get pushed onto public transport, while Dave on 30 grand a year driving 15 miles to his out-of-town industrial estate job in his paid for 15 year old Peugeot diesel is the first to fall victim. Don’t know how much the return of the ICE will help in those situations but it’s a large group that were vulnerable in the transition and not one that should be unfairly penalised tbh.

 

[Kenny]

All they will do is adjust how the mandate works...again.
They will lower targets for a few years and reduce/remove the fines for failing to achieve it.
Probably balance it out with show evidence you are moving towards full EV production or get fined.

Too many manufacturers are too far down the road to reverse now.


They also need to rethink how the PPM is implemented. Everyone who drives is charged per mile, just Petrol/Diesel its hidden in the many taxes inc in the fuel. They have to replace that lost income but the system they are introducing for EV's will just be a confused mess.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I think the recorded mileage on MOT date will work well, why wouldn't it?

But obviously it's the cars younger than 3 years they need to think about.

 

[leedswolf]

I think the recorded mileage on MOT date will work well, why wouldn't it?

But obviously it's the cars younger than 3 years they need to think about.

Just fit cars with a smart meter.

 

[Kenny]

I think the recorded mileage on MOT date will work well, why wouldn't it?

But obviously it's the cars younger than 3 years they need to think about.

Its the 3 years bit where it will be a bit of a mess.

From my side on leasing, there is a simple way to do it where we build in the charge to the cost based on the yearly mileage taken out then refund/recharge the difference.
Admin cost to a large lease Co could be significant though.

Anyone in those 3 years who tells a lie or 2 on what mileage they have done could be in for a shock when they hit the MOT or the mileage is logged when they sell/return a car.

 

[Kenny]

Just fit cars with a smart meter.

Should wind up the big brother government controlling and watching what we do folk a fair bit.

All for it.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Anyone in those 3 years who tells a lie or 2 on what mileage they have done could be in for a shock when they hit the MOT or the mileage is logged when they sell/return a car.

Fuck em.