The Bruno Lage Appreciation Thread

[prawnking]

Agreed. Way to early to be making assessments. Started well but so often teams do then drift down the table.

I guarantee if we were hovering around the bottom 3 there'd be plenty of assessments being made

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Just as it would have been unfair to draw too many conclusions after the defeat at Palace, lets not all go too crazy now after a very good win against West Ham either. But 6th is far better than i expected given such a dismal transfer window.

 

[Dire Wolf]

Just as it would have been unfair to draw too many conclusions after the defeat at Palace, lets not all go too crazy now after a very good win against West Ham either. But 6th is far better than i expected given such a dismal transfer window.

Again, I think that is a fair comment. I would qualify it by saying that the games where we have played well show what we are capable of when we get it right. And we are clearly capable under Bruno of being a very decent team, indeed a top 6 team. What the poor performances show is that we don't have the strength of squad to produce those level of performances consistently, and there are still games where can look like a team that could be in the bottom 6.

We need to improve the squad and improve the consistency.

 

[sycophantia]

Just as it would have been unfair to draw too many conclusions after the defeat at Palace, lets not all go too crazy now after a very good win against West Ham either. But 6th is far better than i expected given such a dismal transfer window.

Definitely, think we will have a better idea after Christmas, if we're still doing well against the cack teams and those around us, plus scrape a few points from the big 3, then I'll think we're going inthe right direction.
If we're struggling, while I will be asking questions, I won't be rushing to jump on Brunos crap bandwagon
I'm not expecting much, if anything in the January window, tbf I don't think lack of signings has hampered us so far, we've been lucky with injuries and bans.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

I'm getting a bit sick of the constant comparisons to Nuno's reign tbh - how long before we can just judge Bruno on his merits/shortcoming in isolation

Whilst he has broadly the same players it is inevitable that comparisons will be made. As he brings in new players the comparisons will switch to the players like they have with Sa.

 

[prawnking]

Just as it would have been unfair to draw too many conclusions after the defeat at Palace, lets not all go too crazy now after a very good win against West Ham either. But 6th is far better than i expected given such a dismal transfer window.

I don't see anyone going crazy, but it's proportionate to be happy about being in a top 6 position at this point, considering we haven't (I believe) occupied it since the back end of 19/20.

It also must be some vindication of the Lage appointment (for now anyway), he's hardly taking the club down in flames?

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Tbf I don't think lack of signings has hampered us so far, we've been lucky with injuries and bans.

Yeah i think that's true, also the form of Saiss, Coady and Kilman has really helped with this.

There have been games where CM midfield options have been needed though, due to fatigue or just form in that particular game.

 

[WsWolf]

I guarantee if we were hovering around the bottom 3 there'd be plenty of assessments being made

There may well have been, that's their prerogative.

For the record, I like Lage, infact I was quite enthused when we appointed him having watched a bit of his Benfica side when they won the league with Felix as the fulcrum. However we've seen plenty of sides shoot off to a superb start and then fall away but very rarely the other way round.

 

[Sniffer]

He's getting praise at the moment and rightly so. Long may it continue.

I don't however understand the need to have digs at people who may have been critical of his appointment.

 

[Dire Wolf]

He's getting praise at the moment and rightly so. Long may it continue.

I don't however understand the need to have digs at people who may have been critical of his appointment.

Because maybe those people who were critical had no reasonable basis to be critical of his appointment other than they were pissed off at losing Nuno? Some people were overtly negative about Bruno from the very start and appeared very unwilling to give him a fair chance. Those that reacted like that have to accept a little bit of mea culpa, don't you think?

 

[Johnny75]

He's getting praise at the moment and rightly so. Long may it continue.

I don't however understand the need to have digs at people who may have been critical of his appointment.

It's making this place unreadable.

 

[Johnny75]

Because maybe those people who were critical had no reasonable basis to be critical of his appointment other than they were pissed off at losing Nuno? Some people were overtly negative about Bruno from the very start and appeared very unwilling to give him a fair chance. Those that reacted like that have to accept a little bit of mea culpa, don't you think?

You don't think it's ok to be critical about the club appointing a manager with barely any experience and clearly a Mendes choice?

 

[prawnking]

There may well have been, that's their prerogative.

For the record, I like Lage, infact I was quite enthused when we appointed him having watched a bit of his Benfica side when they won the league with Felix as the fulcrum. However we've seen plenty of sides shoot off to a superb start and then fall away but very rarely the other way round.

We lost our first three games with zero goals scored!

I know what you're getting at, but I think it's too easy to be blase about how quickly he's got us back into a decent state. It doesn't just happen by accident in a league like this. I think it's more than fair to make an initial, generally positive assessment, imo.

 

[prawnking]

You don't think it's ok to be critical about the club appointing a manager with barely any experience and clearly a Mendes choice?

Stop telling him what to think!!

 

[Sniffer]

Because maybe those people who were critical had no reasonable basis to be critical of his appointment other than they were pissed off at losing Nuno? Some people were overtly negative about Bruno from the very start and appeared very unwilling to give him a fair chance. Those that reacted like that have to accept a little bit of mea culpa, don't you think?

Lets forget Nuno for a minute. If last season you were compiling a list of who would be our next manager would Lage have appeared on it? He was displaying a record of one managerial appointment lasting 14 months where he was brilliant for a few months before it all went pear shaped and he was sacked.

I think criticism of the appointment was fair and as a poster who may have posted such reservations at the time I'm delighted he's doing well.

 

[Dire Wolf]

You don't think it's ok to be critical about the club appointing a manager with barely any experience and clearly a Mendes choice?

Most things around Wolves are a Mendes choice, including the Nuno appointment. Was there the same unequivocal negativity around that? We clearly had people on here who saw his Benfica side telling us he was very good and he *could* be a good appointment. But still there a fair few who wrote him off before his team had even kicked a ball. You think that's a fair and reasonable criticism of him?

 

[redvictor]

Just as it would have been unfair to draw too many conclusions after the defeat at Palace, lets not all go too crazy now after a very good win against West Ham either. But 6th is far better than i expected given such a dismal transfer window.

I agree with this. I wasn't to keen on Bruno to begin with. I certainly think he has done better than i thought he would up to now.

For me i'll assess properly after a season.

 

[WolfMan]

Lets forget Nuno for a minute. If last season you were compiling a list of who would be our next manager would Lage have appeared on it? He was displaying a record of one managerial appointment lasting 14 months where he was brilliant for a few months before it all went pear shaped and he was sacked.

I think criticism of the appointment was fair and as a poster who may have posted such reservations at the time I'm delighted he's doing well.

He wasn't sacked

 

[Dire Wolf]

Lets forget Nuno for a minute. If last season you were compiling a list of who would be our next manager would Lage have appeared on it? He was displaying a record of one managerial appointment lasting 14 months where he was brilliant for a few months before it all went pear shaped and he was sacked.

I think criticism of the appointment was fair and as a poster who may have posted such reservations at the time I'm delighted he's doing well.

It's not my responsibility to know the pros and cons of every available manager is it? From the moment he came through the door he has shown himself to be a very thoughtful and considered man, and he clearly has demonstrated an ability to coach. None of that appeared to be taken into account, it was unequivocally stated by a number of people that he's a downgrade and we would be closer to relegation than we'd been in previous seasons. That seems remarkably unfair to me.

 

[Sniffer]

He wasn't sacked

I stand corrected. He resigned after equalling the worst run in the clubs history.