Summer 2021 transfer window

[NicholasG1973]

If Mendes can’t get more than £30m for Neves he needs his bumps felt.

I’d agree with you to a point, but I think you might be disappointed.

Im not sure Neves is a top four CL central midfielder because of his pace - I might be wrong.

And, if I’m right, who outside a CL team, pays more than £30m for a defensive midfielder?

Not many.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Yeah but he isn't going to move to an Everton or a Leeds, is he.

 

[prawnking]

TBH I wouldn't be happy seeing Ruben, Pedro and Adama walk out the door while we still have Donk, Saiss and MGW still knocking about.

I think the jury's also out on the loanees and the likes of Mir and Otasowie too. We're trying to get back to 7th/8th place here!

I get that you can, as Liverpool and Leicester have, lose a big player or two and reinvest to strengthen the overall team, but I have to be honest and say I'm not hugely confident that'll be the outcome from our recruitment team. As well as success stories we've had our fair share of Mirandas, Vallejos, Cutrones and Joses

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I think from 2017 you'd have to say it's been a success overall (Fabio and Semedo are wait and sees I'll grant you, and expensive ones at that).

Framing the debate as people do is disingenuous at best. As a non-top six team who won't Everton it up and just throw money at it, improving on a 7th placed team isn't that easy.

 

[NicholasG1973]

Yeah but he isn't going to move to an Everton or a Leeds, is he.

Yeah, that was sort of my point (obvs didn’t make it very well!).

He won’t go to Everton or Leeds, and a CL Team won’t buy him........or the likes of Porto couldn’t afford him.

So I can’t really see him going anywhere, currently.

 

[Tony Towner]

I’d agree with you to a point, but I think you might be disappointed.

Im not sure Neves is a top four CL central midfielder because of his pace - I might be wrong.

And, if I’m right, who outside a CL team, pays more than £30m for a defensive midfielder?

Not many.

He'd be an improvement on Fred alongside McTominey and behind Fernandes at Utd. His pace isn't an issue alongside the correct partner and playing the 4231 correctly which we didn't on Monday. Neither Carrick or Henderson have pace yet play(ed) that role well

 

[Tredman]

TBH I wouldn't be happy seeing Ruben, Pedro and Adama walk out the door while we still have Donk, Saiss and MGW still knocking about.

I think the jury's also out on the loanees and the likes of Mir and Otasowie too. We're trying to get back to 7th/8th place here!

I get that you can, as Liverpool and Leicester have, lose a big player or two and reinvest to strengthen the overall team, but I have to be honest and say I'm not hugely confident that'll be the outcome from our recruitment team. As well as success stories we've had our fair share of Mirandas, Vallejos, Cutrones and Joses

I think we’ve done fairly/very well at buying starters, buying for the squad has been more mixed.

 

[Tony Towner]

Injuries aside the flaw in our small squad strategy is you can't afford to miss. Which is an unrealistic expectation

 

[prawnking]

I think we’ve done fairly/very well at buying starters, buying for the squad has been more mixed.

I agree, but I think most of that success was concentrated in the summer just after promotion though. I think we've found it more difficult since then (and the team has been successful too, of course).

Since that window obviously Neto has been the big success, Podence has been decent, Semedo is...there and all three players are at least partially getting game-time due to Jota and Doc being sold

 

[sycophantia]

Don't think Neves lack of pace is an issue in his position, personally I think he'd slot straight into Man U, City, Liverpool and several clubs abroad....I'd be amazed if he went for much less than 50 mill

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Neves would be all at sea if he was left as exposed as the likes of Fabinho playing for a top side, it was mentioned on here the other day about the way City have changed their setup slightly because the same thing happened to Rodri when he replaced Fernandinho.

He's good for Wolves when they play a more restrained defensive shape, keep him goal side and he positions himself very well to close off passing options and nick off loose passes. As we've seen in other games this season though, you leave him with massive spaces around him and he hasn't got the mobility to cover the ground and put himself in the positions to do those things.

If the aim is for the midfield, or the team as a whole really, to play with more freedom going forwards then Neves can't be that anchorman who stays back on the cover with little support.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

So with transfer embargos rife in the championship, are there any players apart from Ivan Toney worth looking at?

This is a Daily Mail non story. The government has granted a three month extension to file accounts due to Covid. The EFL in their wisdom have decided not to allow that. All these clubs are now simply waiting for auditors to sign off because that is the account submission delay. As the three month extension expires before the opening of the window, absolutely nobody will be in embargo when it matters.

Several clubs have explained this to the Mail who of course refuse to change their story as they are a bunch of sensationalist wankers.

 

[jd1981]

It’s who you believe other articles with have you think Fosun are going to spend big in the future.
Reality is I don’t see a huge change in policy as we’ve seen in the last couple of seasons.

 

[jd1981]

What I do see is us becoming a more a mid table side. I think challenging for top 6 etc will become far to greater gap to bridge. I don’t see Fosun spending the fees and wages on the quality of player needed to reach that level.

 

[prawnking]

Like many of us I imagine, I spent most of the first 15 years of my Wolves-supporting life in Div 2/Championship purgatory, so a few seasons of mid-table PL doesn't sound so bad.

But I don't think getting to the level Leicester are at (aside from the PL win!) is beyond us at some point in the next few years

 

[AndyWolves]

This is a Daily Mail non story. The government has granted a three month extension to file accounts due to Covid. The EFL in their wisdom have decided not to allow that. All these clubs are now simply waiting for auditors to sign off because that is the account submission delay. As the three month extension expires before the opening of the window, absolutely nobody will be in embargo when it matters.

Several clubs have explained this to the Mail who of course refuse to change their story as they are a bunch of sensationalist wankers.

Ah right, that'll teach me to not read just the headlines (it won't!)

 

[AndyWolves]

I spent most of the first 15 years of my Wolves-supporting life in Div 2/Championship purgatory, so a few seasons of mid-table PL doesn't sound so bad.

But I don't think getting to the level Leicester are at (aside from the PL win!) is beyond us at some point in the next few years

Agree with this, mid table PL isn't something to be sniffed at.

 

[YoungWolf]

Like many of us I imagine, I spent most of the first 15 years of my Wolves-supporting life in Div 2/Championship purgatory, so a few seasons of mid-table PL doesn't sound so bad.

But I don't think getting to the level Leicester are at (aside from the PL win!) is beyond us at some point in the next few years

Agree with this, mid table PL isn't something to be sniffed at.

Agree on both counts. I want us to continue performing like in the previous two seasons of course, they have been fantastic - but I'm genuinely baffled by the expectation (trying not to use the word entitlement) of some. It generally seems to be young idiots on twitter but it still bothers me! They call Nuno/Fosun frauds etc. They really don't know how good we've had it the last four seasons!

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Ah right, that'll teach me to not read just the headlines (it won't!)

Blues are still fucked though

 

[Tony Towner]

Tbf nobody was talking about midtable being the expectation 12 months ago so if that's what's now being accepted (be it on here or within the club) then that's disappointing. The 2 years of finishing 7th are more relevant than the 20 in the Championship which preceded it. Midtable would be going backwards and eventually leads to ambivalence as seen at Charlton and Albion.

That's just the reality