Shamima Begum

[darlowolf64]

https://southendnewsnetwork.net/new...-begum-will-be-allowed-to-return-to-britain2/

 

[Papper]

It was a Jordanian pilot

Yes, my bad - thanks for the correction.

 

[Papper]

Last I looked she didn’t burn the pilot or behead bigley

Quite. She fled to ISIS in February 2015 many years after Bigley and many more were publically executed by those animals and a month after the Jordanian lad was burned to death.

She was obviously brainwashed.

 

[Papper]

Loses first stage of her appeal againt her citizenship being revoked. Suppose two maniacs being let out of prison and knifing people in the name of Jihad in recent months hasn't helped her cause. Bit of a political football for Johnson is that ...

 

[Deleted Cyber]

She should offer to do community service to visit communities where radicalisation is a problem and then tell the real story of what its like. If she really is a changed woman she should have little issue with that. Once she has proved over say two years that she is ready to become part of British society she can have her citizenship back but for there needs to be a lot of quid pro quo from this young lady and her timing of appeal is unfortunately , poor.

 

[Papper]

She should offer to do community service to visit communities where radicalisation is a problem and then tell the real story of what its like. If she really is a changed woman she should have little issue with that. Once she has proved over say two years that she is ready to become part of British society she can have her citizenship back but for there needs to be a lot of quid pro quo from this young lady and her timing of appeal is unfortunately , poor.

Would she wish to return if ISIS had not been defeated though? That's where the credibility falls down somewhat ...

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Would she wish to return if ISIS had not been defeated though? That's where the credibility falls down somewhat ...

Hence why I would want a real demonstration of her regret remorse and genuine change of loyalty. She can be a good devout British Muslim without being a terrorist supporter so she should prove it

 

[Papper]

Hence why I would want a real demonstration of her regret remorse and genuine change of loyalty. She can be a good devout British Muslim with being a terrorist supporter so she should prove it

While I am total against any form of violence I think it would be mightily difficult to tell people to stop being angry about something they obviously care passionately about. Ideally you incarcerate, expel or remove the source of the anger with a bit of pow wow or through the ballot box. As an example JC has been vilified for his views/stance on Ireland/Palestine and called a terrorist sympathiser. If these people see no resolution within the current party structure they are capable of forming their own party and getting representation in Westminster.

 

[Tredman]

Interesting to see how the police and media have treated Rhianan Rudd very differently.

 

[Alan]

Interesting to see how the police and media have treated Rhianan Rudd very differently.

But mate, she just loved horses!

At least that's what a quick Google reveals first about her.

 

[Tony Towner]

I think her taking her own life plays as much into that as what you are alluding to

 

[Tredman]

I think her taking her own life plays as much into that as what you are alluding to

Does it? Should not have to take your own life to be treated fairly you would hope.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

As far as I can see she was charged and the charges were still live when she committed suicide so I don't think the police treatment was different.

Media treatment definitely is different. One is the great satan. The other is a young kid somehow radicalised by a white american.

 

[Tredman]

I thought the charges had been dropped by then, but the report wasn’t very clear. Either way she was treated very poorly initially by the police.

 

[AndyWolves]

Just skim read some of the details. It's hard to see past the mother enabling what happened.