Rob Edwards - the prodigal son returns

[Deutsch Wolf]

I'm not sure what your argument is.

That we're on course to be the worst team of all time because we have the most stupidly constructed squad of all time. It makes no sense and it's peppered liberally with players who have absolutely no business being at this level.

 

[Quirkafleeg]

Don't worry that Celta Vigo twat will be along later to figure it all out..

 

[Jack Regan]

Don't worry that Celta Vigo twat will be along later to figure it all out..

To be fair he did seem to suggest we should get Stringfellow Hawke in during yesterday's match day thread. I'm pretty sure if he brought Airwolf with him (or even Ernest Borgnine) we'd improve exponentially.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

That we're on course to be the worst team of all time because we have the most stupidly constructed squad of all time. It makes no sense and it's peppered liberally with players who have absolutely no business being at this level.

Yeah no one is disputing that.

But we also have a few players that at their ceiling would walk into teams that got considerably more points than we will/have.

 

[prawnking]

Ernest Borgnine

Rather have him between the sticks than Sa or Johnstone tbh

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Lieutenant Dan out of Forrest Gump ahead of any of Doherty, Hoever or Tchatchoua

 

[Jack Regan]

Lieutenant Dan out of Forrest Gump ahead of any of Doherty, Hoever or Tchatchoua

Ronny Z looking mighty good right now

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Kevin Ashley would do now.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Yeah no one is disputing that.

But we also have a few players that at their ceiling would walk into teams that got considerably more points than we will/have.

No point having the parts to make an Airfix model if you haven’t got the glue to stick them together. Deutsch has explained why we have no glue so despite having some pieces that could be put together we’ve got a heap of plastic bits that in no way resemble a Spitfire. The teams you mention only needed to be a paper plane folded from a crumpled piece of paper to be more impressive than said collection of bits of plastic.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

No point having the parts to make an Airfix model if you haven’t got the glue to stick them together. Deutsch has explained why we have no glue so despite having some pieces that could be put together we’ve got a heap of plastic bits that in no way resemble a Spitfire. The teams you mention only needed to be a paper plane folded from a crumpled piece of paper to be more impressive than said collection of bits of plastic.

Absolutely, and I’ve been one of the biggest advocates of "teams" over individuals for years.

I’ve regularly argued that structure, balance and leadership (our captains!!) matter more than any single player, and that players like Bennett and Saiss were more valuable to us than the sum of their individual parts, despite the regular cries for their replacement.

But that doesn’t mean those players now wouldn’t get into other sides. They absolutely would.

We are similar now to Taylor or McGhee’s Championship sides, players who were individually better than many they faced, but never functioned as a proper team and would be outfought and outthought.

So yes, the glue matters. But having glue doesn’t suddenly make the pieces better plastic, and lacking it doesn’t mean the pieces themselves are entirely useless.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Absolutely, and I’ve been one of the biggest advocates of "teams" over individuals for years.

I’ve regularly argued that structure, balance and leadership (our captains!!) matter more than any single player, and that players like Bennett and Saiss were more valuable to us than the sum of their individual parts, despite the regular cries for their replacement.

But that doesn’t mean those players now wouldn’t get into other sides. They absolutely would.

We are similar now to Taylor or McGhee’s Championship sides, players who were individually better than many they faced, but never functioned as a proper team and would be outfought and outthought.

So yes, the glue matters. But having glue doesn’t suddenly make the pieces better plastic, and lacking it doesn’t mean the pieces themselves are entirely useless.

What use are they without glue? Obviously some other teams who have players that act as glue will see them as useful but it’s too late now for us to get any glue so to us they are worthless. Put Andre into the MU team and he’ll immediately look better, continue playing him with the likes of Tchatchoua, Wolfe, Arias, Hwang and Lopez around him and he’ll still be shit.

To use another analogy our better players are like the undamaged bits on a car that’s been written off. On that car they’re of no value but a door might be very useful if it can be salvaged and put on a different car that’s is functioning but needs a new door.

 

[Keef]

You’re enabling a guy who’s an old school apartheid denier. Fuck you and the rest of you cunts who still frequent his site.

Edit - sorry, forgot the xx you cunt.

Ooh that’s me told, how dare I use a social media site you don’t like.
It’s the quickest way of getting rare bird alerts ( I’m a birdwatcher, I can decide whether to go see these rare birds) but guess I’ll have to give it up because you don’t like the owner.
Anything else you shout at people to give up because of the owners? Local Chinese restaurant because of the way the Chinese government clamps down on residents freedoms?

 

[NicholasG1973]

Fuck Edwards off tomorrow and go all out for Nuno when he gets fucked off by West Ham.

Bring Coady in as number two.

Cash in on the whole lot in January and get as much as we can for Andre, Gomes and JSL.

Sign players who want to play and fight for us - and fuck the rest off.

Let’s start again.

Won’t happen, but that’s my ridiculously unrealistic plan.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I think we’re arguing the same point from opposite ends of the tube of glue.

 

[Tredman]

Ooh that’s me told, how dare I use a social media site you don’t like.
It’s the quickest way of getting rare bird alerts ( I’m a birdwatcher, I can decide whether to go see these rare birds) but guess I’ll have to give it up because you don’t like the owner.
Anything else you shout at people to give up because of the owners? Local Chinese restaurant because of the way the Chinese government clamps down on residents freedoms?

There’s a big difference between a local Chinese and a site run by a man trying to undermine our democracy and actively trying to encourage a racist white first society.

I guess as a white man that probably works well for you so all good.

 

[Quirkafleeg]

 

[James]

Fuck Edwards off tomorrow and go all out for Nuno when he gets fucked off by West Ham.

Bring Coady in as number two.

Cash in on the whole lot in January and get as much as we can for Andre, Gomes and JSL.

Sign players who want to play and fight for us - and fuck the rest off.

Let’s start again.

Won’t happen, but that’s my ridiculously unrealistic plan.

All good but I'd bring his backroom team back in & put Coady into that mix but it's never going to happen as the rot/ poison is set in.