REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD
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leedswolf
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The Telegraph, Times, Mail and Sun have published (well-buried) corrections to their latest scaremongering misinformation on undocumented migrants.
The corrections will be seen by a few hundred people. The screaming front page headlines of the original story were seen by millions, and again increased the division and racism in the UK. The drip feed of hatred from the billionaire-owned right wing media continues.
The corrections will be seen by a few hundred people. The screaming front page headlines of the original story were seen by millions, and again increased the division and racism in the UK. The drip feed of hatred from the billionaire-owned right wing media continues.
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The sad thing is, they don't actually need to lie and exaggerate like that, the real numbers will piss their base off anyway.
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I'm sorry have I read that right? Lorries aren't checked at Dover, and they go 22 miles away to be checked? I'm presuming that this journey isn't by one massive inescapable tunnel, and that each lorry doesn't have an armed escort to go and get checked. So I guess my main question is what the fuck?
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you have, and your question is appropriate...
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It's even more bonkers that there was an area near the docks that was set aside for the checkpoint but for some reason decided to build it 22 miles away.
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Is there a possible advantage to Brexit in not having tarrifs imposed in the UK? Could be a route for Europe to export to the us?
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I doubt it. Firstly there’s the cost of getting it into the uk (some tariffs are already applied), clearing customs, getting it ready to export again etc etc. If you have to declare the origin of the items could the US apply tariffs it it’s not UK?
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According to an article by Frost, the unelected bureaucrat who was Johnson’s sidekick during the Brexit negotiations, Britain is headed inexorably towards bankruptcy.
The man has some brass neck given his role in achieving the hard Brexit we are now suffering under. He, of course, wants to blame a government that has only been in power for 6 months rather than considering the £40 billion a year lost tax revenue that his beloved Brexit has cost us.
The prospect of bankruptcy should come as no surprise to older supporters. In the 1970s, before the benefits of EU membership were realised, the UK was facing bankruptcy. In 1976, with inflation at 25 percent and a plunging GB Pound and running out of foreign exchange, the government was forced to obtain an IMF bailout to stave off catastrophe. Grinding austerity followed under the terms of the loan, unemployment rocketed and then a wave of strikes culminating in the 1979 winter of discontent. By 1980, there was civil unrest things had become so bad.
We were saved by North Sea oil revenues and membership of the single European market. They won’t be there this time.
See link to article about life in 1970s Britain in comments- last time the country was bankrupt
The man has some brass neck given his role in achieving the hard Brexit we are now suffering under. He, of course, wants to blame a government that has only been in power for 6 months rather than considering the £40 billion a year lost tax revenue that his beloved Brexit has cost us.
The prospect of bankruptcy should come as no surprise to older supporters. In the 1970s, before the benefits of EU membership were realised, the UK was facing bankruptcy. In 1976, with inflation at 25 percent and a plunging GB Pound and running out of foreign exchange, the government was forced to obtain an IMF bailout to stave off catastrophe. Grinding austerity followed under the terms of the loan, unemployment rocketed and then a wave of strikes culminating in the 1979 winter of discontent. By 1980, there was civil unrest things had become so bad.
We were saved by North Sea oil revenues and membership of the single European market. They won’t be there this time.
See link to article about life in 1970s Britain in comments- last time the country was bankrupt
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'Boris Johnson was a disaster': Mary McAleese slams Brexit at Leitrim event
McAleese says Brexit was a huge betrayal of the Good Friday Agreement
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FFS. Thanks for this though.
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From the BBC - a study of how the labour market in south west England has shifted since Brexit:-
"The government's statistics show there were more than 11,500 National Insurance Numbers (NINos) allocated to people born overseas and living in Devon, Cornwall, Dorset and Somerset in the year to September 2024, about 1,000 more than 10 years ago.
"The proportion of NINos issued to people born in EU countries fell from 85% in 2014, to 8% in 2024.
"Over the same 10-year period the proportion issued to people born in Asian countries increased from 7% in 2014, to 52% in 2024.
"Dr Brindle said the number of people from non-EU countries coming to the UK had "sharply risen" since the end of freedom of movement for people born in the EU in 2020."
So, once more, we see that migration to the UK has risen since Brexit - in response to the demands of the economy, despite the fact that many of those who voted to leave wanted migration to fall, and voted to exit the EU specifically to achieve that. If that was anybody's aim, it has failed in spectacular fashion.
So, what Brexit has resulted in is rising migration, but the loss of our reciprocal rights to live work, study, set up business and retire wherever we want on our own continent.
It can clearly be seen that a return to freedom of movement will lead if anything to a fall in net migration, rather than an increase.
"The government's statistics show there were more than 11,500 National Insurance Numbers (NINos) allocated to people born overseas and living in Devon, Cornwall, Dorset and Somerset in the year to September 2024, about 1,000 more than 10 years ago.
"The proportion of NINos issued to people born in EU countries fell from 85% in 2014, to 8% in 2024.
"Over the same 10-year period the proportion issued to people born in Asian countries increased from 7% in 2014, to 52% in 2024.
"Dr Brindle said the number of people from non-EU countries coming to the UK had "sharply risen" since the end of freedom of movement for people born in the EU in 2020."
So, once more, we see that migration to the UK has risen since Brexit - in response to the demands of the economy, despite the fact that many of those who voted to leave wanted migration to fall, and voted to exit the EU specifically to achieve that. If that was anybody's aim, it has failed in spectacular fashion.
So, what Brexit has resulted in is rising migration, but the loss of our reciprocal rights to live work, study, set up business and retire wherever we want on our own continent.
It can clearly be seen that a return to freedom of movement will lead if anything to a fall in net migration, rather than an increase.
