REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

[Paul]

Also not sure why you're using admissions as a yardstick here. I haven’t been admitted to hospital for three years, but I've had more blood tests in the last year than I have anytime in the last ten.

Not trying to be clever but you would have thought there would have been a correlation between 40% drop in hospital admissions and adequate supply of a staple piece of equipment, if they'd have said syringes, I'd have thought yep, makes sense, perhaps we should consider putting it out to private companies to supply ?

 

[BillyDee]

That's right, private companies are able to hire ineligible foreign drivers and aren't subject to border checks. I had forgotten that.

 

[Paul]

That's right, private companies are able to hire ineligible foreign drivers and aren't subject to border checks. I had forgotten that.

How many border checks do you think there are between here and Swindon ??
I was being sarcastic, take it down a notch Mr Angry

 

[leedswolf]

 

[Tredman]

It’s not even U.K., it’s just GB.

 

[Jolemai]

Wetherspoon’s short on some beers as Brexit affects deliveries | JD Wetherspoon | The Guardian

Pub chain confirms shortages of Carling and Coors, with one notice blaming ‘lack of lorry drivers and strike action’

amp.theguardian.com

 

[leedswolf]

Shortages of Carling, Bud and Coors. An actual Brexit bonus.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I love how they blame anything except Brexit. Twats.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Genuine question, what has happened with the haulage drivers? Did they just go "home" during Covid and have decided to stay there, and now we are post Brexit they are even more reluctant to return?

 

[BillyDee]

They aren't allowed to work here due to the end of freedom of movement. The government could grant an exemption to foreign drivers, but instead are telling firms to hire UK drivers. Which there aren't enough of.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Plus foreign drivers were happy to take much lower rates. That drove wages down so a lot of UK drivers found something else to do and simply don’t want to come back.

 

[WolfMan]

I am a Remainer but I'm sure I remember reading in the run up to the referendum Brexiteers saying being in Europe was causing lower wages for UK nationals. It was disputed at the time but it seems on this evidence it was correct, at least for HGV drivers anyway.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Quite. But the point is that wages don’t appear to have shot back up to incentivise a return by the British drivers. Strange that.

 

[Paul]

There is a trend of hauliers at the minute to increase existing drivers wages in order for them not to bugger off somewhere more lucrative, agencies seems to be pushing a lot higher wages for driving recruits as well.

 

[Derby Wolf]

My store has recently had a four week refit and our stock went and sat in a supermarkets warehouse waiting for us to reopen, when we reopened we had the best availability in the Derby area because we closed just before the supply issues really started biting.

What gets me is we phoned our distribution centre explained this and asked for our deliveries to be cancelled, for two reasons: we figured we had plenty availability and 'backstock' and they would probably jump at the opportunity to have one less store to find a driver to deliver to and they could make their own stocks go further by putting it into another store...

No.

We now have more stock on hand than we can manage and we are having to transfer stock to other stores and drive it over ourselves.

The drivers we speak to are mostly British and have been since I started with Sainsburys in 2017 but they also say the DC has lost hundreds of 'pickers' so you've got dozens of drivers ready to drive out at 2/3am but aren't getting out until 7am. both ends of the supply chain are getting hammered. Our stores deliveries are usually 7am sharp because we're on a busy main road with nowhere to park after a 8ish but we've had lorries turning up as late as 6pm.

 

[lemonjelly]

ridiculous how the narrative has become "transport and logistical", so those involved can argue it isn't due to brexit, when it is clear to every man and their dog what is the cause.

 

[leedswolf]

 

[Paul]

Well that's swayed me if Biggins was in favour !!

 

[Tony Towner]

Join us tomorrow where Les Dennis will be giving us his take on the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan

 

[WolfMan]

My wife's job means she's come into contact with quite a few celebrities over the years and she always says Christopher Biggins is the worst one of the lot by a long way, really nasty bloke.