REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

[Johnny75]

*Mild shock*

Well colour me shocked....

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

In contrast to well-rehearsed EU positions on issues such as the financial settlement and Irish borders, British officials admit they did not bring any prepared negotiating papers to share with their counterparts – insisting instead that their overall ambitions were made clear by the government’s white paper and Lancaster House speech.

Well, that's a good start. Do no preparation whatsoever. It's ok, you've only had a year. Referring back to the white paper, eh? Fine, we'll ignore how sloppy you are and move on to this fabulously rigorous document that answers all questions. First item on the agenda? Ireland, I suppose.

The paper says the government will “work with the devolved administrations on an approach to returning powers from the EU that works for the whole of the UK and reflects the interests of Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales” but does not go into specifics.

It says it aims to retain “as seamless and frictionless a border as possible” between Northern Ireland and the Republic, and wants Irish and UK citizens to be able to continue to move freely north-south and east-west, “while protecting the integrity of the UK’s immigration system”. Again, it does not say how.

Oh that's right, that was slapdash as fuck and offered no answers as well.

 

[thehistorymakers]

Just another day in the THM spam thread.

I care just as much about leaving the EU, as you care about the EU. To call me spam or a win, is not respectful and I would have thought better of you.

 

[thehistorymakers]

It seems the random THM sentence generator is fully functional this morning...

You didn't answer the question! Hahaha

 

[So Long Architect]

I'm pretty sure they already know, I'm also pretty sure they're looking forward to financial services relocating from London to Frankfurt.

It's bullshit, every single reason. The apparent reduction in red tape? Any business who wants to sell in Europe is still going to have to abide by any EU regulations. When do we start saving any money? The cost of this is going to be fucking huge and I still don't know what the benefits are

You mean you can't yet feel the huge benefits of taking back control and regaining our sovereignty? You sound like an enemy of the people to me.

 

[Lord Knows]

Ireland the first flash point.

“Ireland will not sign off on a Brexit deal unless we protect the Good Friday Agreement fully, unless we protect the peace process fully, and unless we protect the normalisation that has been created over a number of decades on the island of Ireland in terms of the relationship between north and south.

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news...-deal-unless-good-friday-agreement-protected/

 

[Jolemai]

To call me spam or a win, is not respectful and I would have thought better of you.

I don't know what a win is but I didn't call you spam. I said this is your spam thread, as in the one you post in the most and regularly. As in repeatedly posting your thoughts and concerns in this thread which has become your Mastermind topic.

 

[Keef]

So THM when are you leaving the EU and moving back to the UK? Or you happy to say it stinks but still happy to live there because you know the UK is screwed big time

 

[thehistorymakers]

So THM when are you leaving the EU and moving back to the UK? Or you happy to say it stinks but still happy to live there because you know the UK is screwed big time

I already have interests and family in the UK,
If England is in such as state as people make out here not to mention all the debt, maybe the EU utopia wasn't all that it was made out to be.

 

[Johnny75]

I'm pretty sure they already know, I'm also pretty sure they're looking forward to financial services relocating from London to Frankfurt.

It's bull$#@!, every single reason. The apparent reduction in red tape? Any business who wants to sell in Europe is still going to have to abide by any EU regulations. When do we start saving any money? The cost of this is going to be $#@!ing huge and I still don't know what the benefits are

One of the very few (and they are single digits in number) benefits I can see is the removal and dependence on the financial services. Jobs will migrate across the world but it will not make us any poorer and we could focus on an actual multifaceted economy that doesn't depend on a bunch of charlatans selling products nobody can explain and worse still benefiting from these products when the world crashes.

Protecting ourselves against another crash whilst providing a solid and wide ranging economy is an excellent way forward in my eyes.

 

[Johnny75]

If England is in such as state as people make out here not to mention all the debt.

Who has said this?

 

[thehistorymakers]

I don't know what a win is but I didn't call you spam. I said this is your spam thread, as in the one you post in the most and regularly. As in repeatedly posting your thoughts and concerns in this thread which has become your Mastermind topic.

Only opinions, mate.We all have them, I am no mastermind, as you already now. Hahaha

 

[thehistorymakers]

Who has said this?

Look at the election thread. Oh and we are trillions in debt, whilst in the EU. Something ain't right is it?

 

[Johnny75]

Look at the election thread. Oh and we are trillions in debt, whilst in the EU. Something ain't right is it?

I will explain this to you again as you seem to be having a lot of difficulty accepting this.

THE EU IS NOT THE CAUSE OF UK DEBT OR CONSERVATIVE PARTY POLICY INCLUDING AUSTERITY.

The election for a lot of people had absolutely zero to do with the EU so you can stop this line of crap straight away.

 

[Sniffer]

Look at the election thread. Oh and we are trillions in debt, whilst in the EU. Something ain't right is it?

I'm one away from a full house in today's EU bullshit bingo.

 

[visage]

Look at the election thread. Oh and we are trillions in debt, whilst in the EU. Something ain't right is it?

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc, moron.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc

 

[Langers]

I'm one away from a full house in today's EU bullshit bingo.

Ask if he likes the collar on the new kit.

 

[Sniffer]

Ask if he likes the collar on the new kit.

Are the shit shirt collars down to EU Regs? If I'd have known that I'd have voted leave. Two more years till we get a decent one.

 

[nimrod]

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc, moron.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc

the county's debt has actually got considerably worse since thm started posting on this forum. coincidence?

my choice is the Premier League - all that money they rake in, yet since it was formed the country's debt has spiralled. and what about their contribution to immigration.

 

[AndyWolves]

One of the very few (and they are single digits in number) benefits I can see is the removal and dependence on the financial services. Jobs will migrate across the world but it will not make us any poorer and we could focus on an actual multifaceted economy that doesn't depend on a bunch of charlatans selling products nobody can explain and worse still benefiting from these products when the world crashes.

Protecting ourselves against another crash whilst providing a solid and wide ranging economy is an excellent way forward in my eyes.

I agree, but can we setup this diverse economy before we shaft ours? I also think if we were able to be less dependant on financial services we'd have done it