MK 1 - Wolves 2 - a better than Saturday verdict thread

[Aikiwolf]

I don't think he's been ridiculed at all, unless I've missed something, perhaps you can show me where?

Sav has been though (imo with some justification ) though he has recently started to improve and start to show his potential.

 

[Quirkafleeg]

I don't think he's been ridiculed at all, unless I've missed something, perhaps you can show me where?

So you dont think Saville has been lambasted to hell since he signed.

 

[Johnny75]

Sav has been though (imo with some justification ) though he has recently started to improve and start to show his potential.

I can't remember hearing ridicule in the stands or reading much ridicule on here. Edwards yes but not Saville, more of a 'not rating him' rather than he's so bad he reminds me of a dog chasing a balloon (Edwards).

I'm yet to be convinced so I hope he proves me wrong and he becomes a box-to-box midfielder that chips in the odd goal we need to play 3 in the middle. I haven't seen any of that yet and he's certainly no defensive or playmaking midfielder.

So you dont think Saville has been lambasted to hell since he signed.

No.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Oh come on. He has been absolutely slaughtered.

 

[Quirkafleeg]

Hahahaha ok mucka. I'll leave you too it.. :beerchug:

 

[Quirkafleeg]

Oh come on. He has been absolutely slaughtered.

Its just Johnny playing the argument card. He loves it, let him get on with it.

 

[Johnny75]

Oh come on. He has been absolutely slaughtered.

Well as you pointed out, he hasn't played much football for us in his time here so he hasn't been slaughtered. He started very badly and he deserved the stick he took but then was shunted out on loan, and I think if most of were honest, completely forgot about him.

Some people think he's improving and haven't slaughtered him. I think he's a nothing player so you could say I've slaughtered him by not supporting him at all but Saville has had nowhere near the Edwards bashing (myself included).

 

[Lord Knows]

Bottom line.

I dont think Saville or Coady are good enough footballers if you want to be top end Championship contenders.

 

[Lycan]

He started very badly and he deserved the stick he took.

Disagree with both these points tbh.

He was definitely a scapegoat last year, his 5 starts were nowhere near as bad as people made out at the time and he was written off by a large section of our fans very quickly.

[cybermode]Always rated him myself. Knew he'd come good. [/cybermode]

 

[Johnny75]

Disagree with both these points tbh.

He was definitely a scapegoat last year, his 5 starts were nowhere near as bad as people made out at the time and he was written off by a large section of our fans very quickly.

[cybermode]Always rated him myself. Knew he'd come good. [/cybermode]

I think those 5 starts were about as poor as you get for a new player; Blackpool, Derby and Brentford (I didn't see the Reading game) were all shocking games and whilst he certainly wasn't the worst player on the pitch he was awful.

But as I said I hope he does turn it around and become the box-to-box player he should be.

 

[Lycan]

I think those 5 starts were about as poor as you get for a new player; Blackpool, Derby and Brentford (I didn't see the Reading game) were all shocking games and whilst he certainly wasn't the worst player on the pitch he was awful.

But as I said I hope he does turn it around and become the box-to-box player he should be.

He was fine against Blackpool. Perfectly fine. Also played well vs Charlton & Reading.

Against Charlton he had the shot that hit the post and rolled across the line, against Reading he had a 1v1 saved after Evans put him in on goal and vs Derby he had that shot that just missed wide of the post. I accept that he was very poor vs Derby & Brentford but so was the whole team and he was a matter of inches away from scoring 3 in 5. If even 2 of them had gone in nobody would've written him off the way they did.

I think he also suffered because he was seen as being a potential replacement for the popular Jack Price and then some fans used the fact that that madman Cotterill didn't play him while he was out on loan as evidence that he wasn't good enough.

 

[YoungWolf]

Against Charlton he was actually pretty good and was unlucky not to score. Was taken off at half time as we brought Dicko on to go 4-4-2 but was only because the other two were Evans and McDonald who were solid first choice. Reading away he was decent. The Derby and brentford games did him in.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

I think those 5 starts were about as poor as you get for a new player; Blackpool, Derby and Brentford (I didn't see the Reading game) were all shocking games and whilst he certainly wasn't the worst player on the pitch he was awful.

But as I said I hope he does turn it around and become the box-to-box player he should be.

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[Johnny75]

As I said I didn't see the Reading (or Charlton) game but I did see the other 3 and I disagree with you there Lycan I though he was terrible at Blackpool but then the whole team was (particular props to Edwards and McD who were shocking).

But I think both of you are right the Derby and Brentford games did him in and he looked completely lost in the latter game. Some youngsters thrive on that and crumbled, but I'm glad he's come back a better player. I should say technically I think he's OK but everything else is just a bit Tommy Rowe.

 

[Lycan]

I should say technically I think he's OK but everything else is just a bit Tommy Rowe.

I would say that in terms of stamina and tenacity he's up there with Edwards as one of the best in the squad as well. KJ asks a lot of his players but he simply doesn't tire.

Ken has talked about him getting better as he gets stronger as well so I'd imagine that he'll be given a program to work on over the summer and will come back a lot bigger for the start of next season. While I disagree with Ken's obsession for bulking players up Sav could definitely use it, he does look a little lightweight at times.

 

[Tony Towner]

Thanks for the report Stan. Clearly Zyro's injury which appears to be yet another cruciate is a terrible thing, birthed catalyst having two forwards on the pitch....strangely we them looked like scoring, who'd have thunk it?

 

[Johnny75]

I would say that in terms of stamina and tenacity he's up there with Edwards as one of the best in the squad as well. KJ asks a lot of his players but he simply doesn't tire.

This is why I hope he becomes a good box-to-box player. A foil for Price who can keep the ball moving. If we persist with 4-3-3 we need a creative player like Evans to step up, if we move to 4-4-2 then we certainly need to add some serious pace so Saville can prosper in getting forward.

Either way I hope Saville develops well (no cybermode)

 

[Tony Towner]

I don't see the link player we need in a 3 of Coady, Saville and Price. I like Evans, but this season at Bradford a team that is having a good season he has 2 goals and 2 assists so don't see him as that player either. Mason I see as a second forward rather than a link in a 3. If that player is currently at the club it's Wallace or Zyro.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Cybermode is (c) copyright Cyber-_-man but as you respect it so much you both have permission to use it. All royalties to charity please.

Either way I hope Saville develops well (no cybermode)

Johnny75

[cybermode]Always rated him myself. Knew he'd come good. [/cybermode]

Lycan

 

[Tony Towner]

https://twitter.com/Michal_Zyro/status/717661523880058880?s=09

......but the incompetent ref and linesman saw it!