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Live Match Discussion 2025/26

I do agree with the thought behind it, but you'd definitely see an uptick in accidental hand balls if the punishment was reduced. Arsenal would probably get a dedicated coach in for it.
 
It looked a nailed on handball to me, only decision to make was whether it was out of play or not.

I don't consider having your arms well over your head in that scenario as a natural position.
 
I’m fairly sure the Law change came about because players were frequently spreading an arm particularly when defending crosses. They weren’t deliberately handling the ball but it was quite convenient that it often did! To get round it the pendulum has swung too far the other way as you now have players keeping their arms in an unnatural position to ensure they don’t handle the ball. I prefer the previous interpretation where a ref had more discretion to decide what the defenders intentions are rather than an almost default of a penalty even where the defender has no intention of handling it such as the one against Gomes at Luton last season.
 
You've listed a load of examples where fouls lead to penalties and said "same thing." But it's not the same thing at all.

Every foul you mentioned the trip, the keeper clattering someone or a shirt pull involves a player making a decision. They chose to do it. They got caught. Penalty. That's fair because you're punishing a choice.

Now tell me: when does a defender deliberately handle it in the box? Other than stopping it going in the net, the answer is never. Why would he? The downside is catastrophic. So every handball penalty is punishing an accident. Physics. A ball hitting an arm that's there because humans need arms to run, jump and balance.

And you're right, we don't know if Wood was about to score. So we're awarding an 85% chance of a goal based on something that might have happened. If that cross was sailing over everyone's heads and clips an arm on the way through same penalty. If it was going straight to the keeper same penalty. The punishment is identical regardless of the actual chance of scoring.

"Unnatural position" it is an arm. Every position is natural when you're an athlete mid-sprint tracking a runner. Arms move. That's what they do. VAR has turned this into a frame-by-frame autopsy of something that was never meant to be analysed at that level.

The original law was about cheating. Deliberate use of hands to gain an advantage. Now it's about whether your elbow was 3 inches too far from your torso while you were jumping. That's not the same sport.

And giving an 85% chance of a goal for it? Madness. Indirect free kick for accidental handball, penalty for deliberate. Done. The law is garbage, and 3 high profile games this week have underlined that.
He made a foul in the box so it’s a penalty. That’s the laws of the game. Whether he used his hands, foot, meant it or not is irrelevant. Whether it was going to lead to a goal is irrelevant, same as all the other fouls in the area.

I guess tangles of legs should be indirect free kicks to as they didn’t mean to trip them.

I agree the handball law and implemenation is nonsense, but this isn’t one of those times!
 
Not sure if Leeds have just scored a great goal or the keeper has just waved one in Johnstone stylee
 
Mystery solved.

Shit keeping it is...each replay it gets worse for him tbh
 
Ipswich 2 up now against QPR so that should be that as far as automatic goes.

Derby into the playoffs as we speak beating Sheffield Utd.
 
Thing is with Ipswich, they haven't gone down, sold a few, bulked up the squad to make it better than it was two years ago...it looks worse.

Can see them being the new Burnley, bouncing up and down year on year.
 
Ipswich are flying.

Shame really I was hoping for a bit of tension before the borefest at 3pm.
 
Cracking free kick from Windass to level things up for Wrexham
 
Ollie McBurnie freed up from carrying Fabio Silva, rattling them in for Hull
 
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