Live Match Discussion 2023/24

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Yeah, my immediate thought was offside, and so it proved. About a foot, but whether it's 2 mms or 6 yards, it's offside.

 

[Quirkafleeg]

Neville is being very odd with his comments regarding the offside just now, it was clearly offside, even on the first viewing, and even more so once the lines are drawn, then he starts talking about the angle. The angle is irrelevant, software draws the lines doesn't it? As long as there is an angle that shows everything (unlike at Anfield for us last season)

The first set of lines show he's at least level;. VAR then changed the goalposts and used the lines that do show he's off. But he's not clearly offside at all.

 

[jd1981]

Yeah, my immediate thought was offside, and so it proved. About a foot, but whether it's 2 mms or 6 yards, it's offside.

Not debating that it’s not a foot offside if so I’m about 12ft in height

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Not debating that it’s not a foot offside if so I’m about 12ft in height

It's not even close.

 

[jd1981]

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That’s not 1ft
The angle also doesn’t give clear indication when the ball is played either

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

That’s not 1ft
The angle also doesn’t give clear indication when the ball is played either

How many times have we seen the lines on top of oneanother? That's when it's close.

This is not close.

Now whether it actually came off the Everton player is a different question, but in terms of controversial or close VAR offside decisions, this isn't one really is it?

 

[jd1981]

How many times have we seen the lines on top of oneanother? That's when it's close.

This is not close.

Now whether it actually came off the Everton player is a different question, but in terms of controversial or close VAR offside decisions, this isn't one really is it?

It is firstly for the reasons you’ve stated and the angle doesn’t clearly show when the ball is played.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

It is firstly for the reasons you’ve stated and the angle doesn’t clearly show when the ball is played.

The angle did show when the ball was played?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Don't think Gabriel even passes it forward. It's stupid.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Don't think Gabriel even passes it forward. It's stupid.

I think he did, just.

The law is daft, but it IS offside and it isn't close.

 

[PuntsWolf]

That’s not 1ft
The angle also doesn’t give clear indication when the ball is played either

I mean, it is probably about a foot. Which is modern VAR terms is miles

 

[Quirkafleeg]

That Gabriel pic is all false for VAR use, use the shot that's on his instep, instead of the pic that the ball is just come to him. Use of daylight should be implemented. It should be the next frame used and then for me NKetiah is onside.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

That Gabriel pic is all false for VAR use, use the shot that's on his instep, instead of the pic that the ball is just come to him. Use of daylight should be implemented. It should be the next frame used and then for me NKetiah is onside.

"Daylight" why?

 

[Quirkafleeg]

"Daylight" why?

You tell me why not..

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

You tell me why not..

Because it has never been part of the offside law in the entirety of it's history, so why now?

 

[Quirkafleeg]

Because it has never been part of the offside law in the entirety of it's history, so why now?

Well the powers that be along with Arsene Wenger are trying to implement the striker being a body width further forward being onside. Or Ive been in dream land when it was spoke of last season. Now that seems rather more ludicrous then my daylight suggestion.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Well the powers that be along with Arsene Wenger are trying to implement the striker being a body width further forward being onside. Or Ive been in dream land when it was spoke of last season. Now that seems rather more ludicrous then my daylight suggestion.

Why change it?

 

[PuntsWolf]

Well the powers that be along with Arsene Wenger are trying to implement the striker being a body width further forward being onside. Or Ive been in dream land when it was spoke of last season. Now that seems rather more ludicrous then my daylight suggestion.

Don’t start me on why “daylight” is total utter nonsense. And that’s before we consider you’re just moving the lines

 

[Quirkafleeg]

Don’t start me on why “daylight” is total utter nonsense. And that’s before we consider you’re just moving the lines

Fair enough, but lets get VAR to use the correct still first then. The Gabriel still above is bollocks nonsense.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Fair enough, but lets get VAR to use the correct still first then. The Gabriel still above is bollocks nonsense.

I don't get why it is, it's the still of him releasing the ball isn't it?