Live Match Discussion 2023/24

[Deutsch Wolf]

Scummy team doing scummy things.

It's very poor from Cash, I don't think he had any intention of playing the ball.

 

[Squeak]

Don’t get me started on “daylight” again. So stupid

More stupid than fans in a stadium not knowing for 3 mins if a goal is going to stand? It's utter nonsense.

 

[Squeak]

Actually shouldn't run offside there, it's poor play by Watkins. No need to overrun the line.

Automation is a no-brainer as we know it works and it's far better (and quicker) to show to the fans once it's done its thing.

C'mon... ever played in attack? That was a very fine margin for Watkins.

 

[Alan]

C'mon... ever played in attack? That was a very fine margin for Watkins.

Have you?

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

1. I don't trust the offside/onside technology. - Neither do I, but that looked offside without lines, i trust my own eyes.
2. The Neto at Anfield decision still rankles. - Fair
3. Fans come to games to see goals. In the stadium they are left clueless while fans on TV see the decision. - I think fans to come see their team win, and if it's offside and given or vice versa it rankles, as per your reason 2.
4. Attackers should be given more leeway by changing the rule to clear daylight. - Can't agree, measuring "daylight" has never been a thing and would give the attacker a HUGE advantage, it would effect the game massively and you'd end up with teams defending much deeper which makes the game less entertaining, the reason both of these teams defend so high up is partly because of VAR.
5. It's Tottenham. I think I hate them more than the Vile. - That's weird.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

C'mon... ever played in attack? That was a very fine margin for Watkins.

Yep, plenty

Doesn't need to leave any margin, it's tight but no need to make it tight, he wasn't escaping any marker.

 

[Squeak]

Have you?

That was my main position for years until switching to centre back.
Watkins was offside by less than a quarter of a boot.
Love to see you judge it when running at some kind of speed. You ain't looking at the defenders foot. You are looking at the ball waiting for it to arrive.

 

[Squeak]

Yep, plenty

Doesn't need to leave any margin, it's tight but no need to make it tight, he wasn't escaping any marker.

I get your point about hanging back half a pace but if he does that, his view of the ball has more chance of being obstructed.

 

[Alan]

That was my main position for years until switching to centre back.
Watkins was offside by less than a quarter of a boot.
Love to see you judge it when running at some kind of speed. You ain't looking at the defenders foot. You are looking at the ball waiting for it to arrive.

I agree with your point, it's just that "I played blah blah and you didn't" is a shitty argument.

I don't want Steve Bull anywhere close to our coaching staff, for example.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Ref has bottled that! Was going for the pocket then realised who it was.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I fucking hate McGinn, 80% of his game is gamesmanship.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

There's no "daylight" for Son there, but he was miles offside, do you honestly think that should be "on" Squeak?

 

[Alan]

Now that is offside. Lovely attacking move, though. So many good footballers in this Spurs side, even if I think a lot of them flatter to deceive.

 

[Squeak]

1. I don't trust the offside/onside technology. - Neither do I, but that looked offside without lines, i trust my own eyes. Initially I called it offside but the second angle wasn't so clear.
2. The Neto at Anfield decision still rankles. - Fair
3. Fans come to games to see goals. In the stadium they are left clueless while fans on TV see the decision. - I think fans to come see their team win, and if it's offside and given or vice versa it rankles, as per your reason 2. Team win by scoring more goals than opposition.
4. Attackers should be given more leeway by changing the rule to clear daylight. - Can't agree, measuring "daylight" has never been a thing and would give the attacker a HUGE advantage, it would effect the game massively and you'd end up with teams defending much deeper which makes the game less entertaining, the reason both of these teams defend so high up is partly because of VAR. Good. Let's have more entertainment than goals like that being ruled out for being a quarter of a foot in front of the opponent. Quite happy for atackers to have a huge advantage. And no, I don't think teams would defend much deeper. If that became the norm, then take another look at it. Another goal ruled out now... lovely finish... was a long way off on that though!
5. It's Tottenham. I think I hate them more than the Vile. - That's weird. UEFA Cup, FA Cup Semi, having to listen to Spurs fans at work out ways Tony Morley on Peter Daniel and generally Villa fans being twatish schoolkids.

 

[Squeak]

I fucking hate McGinn, 80% of his game is gamesmanship.

It really is. He's a very average footballer.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

That's a superb ball in by Luiz. Top class.

 

[Lupo]

I fucking hate McGinn, 80% of his game is gamesmanship.

The irony of him moaning about Vicario on the corner considering his rat faced antics on Dawson at Molineux, banjo playing misfit

 

[Alan]

He reminds me of an "enforcer" in hockey. Not really there to do anything but be a big tough prick.

 

[Squeak]

There's no "daylight" for Son there, but he was miles offside, do you honestly think that should be "on" Squeak?

It's a good one to examine. Under the new rule of "clear daylight" he would be onside and yes, I'd have no problem with that being given as a goal. His left leg was level and he was not miles offside as you state. He still had a lot to do to score a goal.

I do get your point about team defending deeper but I'd be inclined to give it a couple of seasons and see if that really happened and if it affected the game in an adverse way. For me, if they defend deeper, then the ball is in an attacking area more often.

 

[Lupo]

Typical Villa, Spurs should be out of sight at half time