Keir Starmer at it again..

[Dire Wolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2018348884162920604

Its Corbyn's fault.

 

[sycophantia]

Surely some of this stuff with Mandelson is treason, still a hanging offence isnt it?

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Hasn't been for thirty years

 

[Templeton Peck]

A big push now to make Mandelson the scapegoat - pretend it's all down to individual rogue behaviour rather than the fact he's one piece in a very large jigsaw. The real issues here are Starmer's judgement and the influence of Mandy fan boy Morgan McSweeney. And just how many people have their snouts in the trough?

 

[Wolftone]

Surely some of this stuff with Mandelson is treason, still a hanging offence isnt it?

Ah no, first thing Blair did was scrap that. Wonder why that was?

 

[Mel Evo]

Ah no, first thing Blair did was scrap that. Wonder why that was?

Is the answer in your head ‘to protect his friend Peter’? Is that the sort of thing actual people think?

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Ah no, first thing Blair did was scrap that. Wonder why that was?

I dunno probably to do with it never EVER going to be used in the case of treason and that the bill corrected a 1963 oversight in leaving capital barratry on the statute book by accident.

Or it was Tony protecting his mate. Yeah, that was it.

 

[Derby Wolf]

Ah no, first thing Blair did was scrap that. Wonder why that was?

Because the death penalty is incompatible with the ECHR and protocol 6 to which we are state party.

 

[Tredman]

Nah mate, its Tonty Blair

 

[leedswolf]

Police review misconduct claims after files suggest Mandelson sent government information to Epstein

Documents released as part of the Epstein files suggest that Lord Mandelson forwarded internal emails when he was business secretary in 2009. He has been approached for comment.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[leedswolf]

I dunno probably to do with it never EVER going to be used in the case of treason and that the bill corrected a 1963 oversight in leaving capital barratry on the statute book by accident.

Or it was Tony protecting his mate. Yeah, that was it.

All capital offences were scrapped by 1998.

 

[Wolftone]

All capital offences were scrapped by 1998.

Wrongly so imo.

 

[Wolftone]

I dunno probably to do with it never EVER going to be used in the case of treason and that the bill corrected a 1963 oversight in leaving capital barratry on the statute book by accident.

Or it was Tony protecting himself. Yeah, that was it.

FIFY.
Never say never.

 

[Wolftone]

Is the answer in your head ‘to protect his friend Peter’? Is that the sort of thing actual people think?

Amongst others

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Wrongly so imo.

Well, that is a WHOLE can of worms of a moral debate. Personally, I don't think capital punishment has any place in a civilised society, but your mileage may vary.

 

[Del Woppio]

I do largely agree, but I can't think of any good reason to keep the likes of Axel Rudakubana alive tbh. I'd have the threshold for it pretty high, and obviously there's the problem of 100% certainty of guilt. but where it's clear cut and they've killed or raped kids I could quite happily swing the axe myself with zero moral complication

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Also how does mental health fit in?

Ive long felt that if you murder someone in cold blood you are mentally ill, rather than evil.

 

[Derby Wolf]

Wrongly so imo.

Birmingham Six and Guildford Four dislike this.

 

[Tony Towner]

I do largely agree, but I can't think of any good reason to keep the likes of Axel Rudakubana alive tbh. I'd have the threshold for it pretty high, and obviously there's the problem of 100% certainty of guilt. but where it's clear cut and they've killed or raped kids I could quite happily swing the axe myself with zero moral complication

Where do you sit with Lucy Letby? Fits your criteria, but there's momentum behind the view that's she's innocent, but late if you've already killed her.

 

[Tredman]

Wonder if that momentum would be there if she wasn’t white and blonde.