Keir Starmer at it again..

[Tredman]

That's fine, but why should others have to subsidise that?

I think it's a great idea to help working families back into work, and a great safe guard for vulnerable kids. But in terms of opportunity cost (and the message the advert gives) I'd rather taxes went to more needy causes than going out for a coffee. Especially when Rachel is talking about having to raise taxes.

Proving Maggie right in one post

 

[AndyWolves]

Proving Maggie right in one post

Do you think it's a good use of societal resources? For the reasons given in the post?

I'm trying to see the other side of this argument and genuinely interested.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

What it will also do is enable parents to get to work on time. We used breakfast clubs when my girls were younger (paid for) that's what the messaging should be about. I'd drop them off at 8 and be able to get to work for 9.

 

[leedswolf]

Do you think it's a good use of societal resources? For the reasons given in the post?

I'm trying to see the other side of this argument and genuinely interested.

Do you not think that work/life balance is important too?

 

[AndyWolves]

Do you not think that work/life balance is important too?

Yes, but someone has to do the work for the balance. The examples in the tweet make no reference to work, and that's what I have issue with.

Id love to not work, but I don't see it being someone else's problem that I have to.

 

[lemonjelly]

That's fine, but why should others have to subsidise that?

I think it's a great idea to help working families back into work, and a great safe guard for vulnerable kids. But in terms of opportunity cost (and the message the advert gives) I'd rather taxes went to more needy causes than going out for a coffee. Especially when Rachel is talking about having to raise taxes.

30 minutes per day/week don't enable someone to work or not work. Most peoples commute is longer than 30 minutes I expect.

We seem happy to subsidise phenomenally wealthy companies all the time.
A progresive taxation system should benefit the society as a whole. There will always be a proportion who contribute more, and vice versa.
I'd rather have 30 minutes to enahnce my life, not work longer and harder.

Are you suggesting we remove funding from anyone who doesn't work/contribute? Of course not (I hope!)

 

[The Saturday Boy]

It shows how the rich and powerful (the tiny minority) have shaped the narrative of a sizeable portion of the majority. Taxation isnt a necessary evil, it is necessary. We don't have a truly progressive taxation system and we don't raise enough from taxation to fund things that would make a real difference to people's lives so we squabble over whether the disabled are deserving of their benefits and whether an additional 30 minutes from a breakfast club is a good use of taxpayer's money.

We live in a feudal system that we have called capitalism because it sounds better. The vast majority of wealth is held by a few, the vast majority of that wealth has been generated by workers and consumers with the extremely small amount of wealth that has trickled down.

But spend a little money on providing parents an extra 30 minutes is the problem? Doesn't matter how it is framed, who introduced it or what people use that 30 minutes for...it is a miniscule irrelevance in the great scheme of things.

Most of what is good in society has developed directly or indirectly from socialist ideas, paid for through taxation. Social security, social housing, NHS, education, public utilities...all subsequently victims of the feudal narrative of capitalism. Without the ideas of socialism, we wouldn't have a middle class. The provision of education, universal health care, decent housing, a safety net...all combined to provide opportunities for aspiration that capitalism does not. But 30 minutes for a cup of coffee is a waste?

So yes. Tax the wealthy and the rich and if they try to leave, tax them again. Stop the transfer of funds to offshore accounts and all the other "legal" avoidance schemes. And then maybe we can extend that 30 minutes to an hour.