Keir Starmer at it again..

[Tredman]

The Tories didn't have the Muslim vote in the first place.

The whole concept of this ethnic group always votes *this* way is totally weird anyway imo.

 

[pr0sl0]

It's an interesting dynamic, because if you look at inner London in the Council elections that was a factor, but in the Mayoral race with a Muslim candidate it wasn't, although no obvious alternative place for that vote to go as far as I can see

Khan made it clear he disagreed with the national party's equivocation over Gaza, though.

But overall, as much as there was a huge amount of stuff going around local whatsapp groups and whatnot about it, every single person I know who normally votes Green first choice/Labour second just went for Khan this time. Anecdotal of course, but from the final votes it looks like that must have been a common decision.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

The whole concept of this ethnic group always votes *this* way is totally weird anyway imo.

Is it? If you look at the areas of Britain where there are higher ethnic minorities, they are generally more likely to vote Labour - historically.

 

[Tredman]

Is it? If you look at the areas of Britain where there are higher ethnic minorities, they are generally more likely to vote Labour - historically.

Perhaps, it’s overly simplistic though - you could argue those areas and economically disadvantaged areas in general would be way more likely to vote labour any way.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Fair.

I also think it's fair to say Labour's stance in Palestine would have effected the Labour vote, and may do in a GE too.

 

[Tredman]

Fair.

I also think it's fair to say Labour's stance in Palestine would have effected the Labour vote, and may do in a GE too.

Not sure that’s directly related to a Muslim vote though

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Oh? I'd say its hugely related?

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

BBC News - Labour must rebuild trust with Muslim voters, says senior MP

Labour must rebuild trust with Muslim voters, says senior MP

The party's Gaza stance appears to have dented its support in Muslim areas at the local elections.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Del Woppio]

Definitely - if Street does retain his job it's 100% because of Labour's stance on Gaza

 

[Tredman]

Definitely - if Street does retain his job it's 100% because of Labour's stance on Gaza

Yep, but saying this is down to Muslim voters only is wrong. Plenty of EP* types who’d not vote Labour for the same reason.

*assuming EP is not Muslim

 

[Del Woppio]

Yep, but saying this is down to Muslim voters only is wrong. Plenty of EP* types who’d not vote Labour for the same reason.

*assuming EP is not Muslim

I dunno. I hate the Labour Party's stance on Gaza, but I ticked every Labour box without a seconds thought. You can be as sympathetic with a people's plight as you like but when it's literally 'your people' dying you're bound to find it harder/impossible to hold your nose and tick the box, especially when there's a Muslim independent campaigning in the mayoralty specifically and near exclusively on Gaza.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Either way, it was not only a poor moral choice to be so passive regarding Israel, but also a poor one strategically.

 

[Sniffer]

Natalie Elphicke?

I'd have told her no thanks.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Likewise. Horrible specimen.

Ridiculously stupid as well.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1505130594468077568

 

[Mel Evo]

Natalie Elphicke?

I'd have told her no thanks.

Yep. Not the Boon it might first seem.

 

[The Saturday Boy]

4 weeks ago she was actively campaigning for the Conservatives against Labour. Saul would be proud of that conversion speed.

 

[leedswolf]

4 weeks ago she was actively campaigning for the Conservatives against Labour. Saul would be proud of that conversion speed.

On her way to Damascus?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Not standing at the next GE apparently. Sweetens the pill a little because all it does is make Booster Seat look very weak, but I'd still have said no.

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

She’s a vile human being.

 

[Tony Towner]

It's a terrible look for Starmer imo. He has to be more principled, she's a nasty piece of work