Just how good were/was/is/are (Wolves Edition)

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Wow, Ian Holloway looking fresh!

 

[North Shropshire Lad]

I know we couldn't play him in the Sherpa Van which is we ended up with that bellend Hansbury between the sticks vs Torquay. It might have been 31 years ago but I haven't forgiven him.

Nor me. Even stood on the old crumbling South Bank at the other end, you could see the gap he left for the free kick. Gap is being too kind - any Sunday League player could have scored that.

Amazing how the memory works - although I can't quite remember what happened at Mansfield [but I know something did with a keeper in the warm up], my memory of 80's events is much better than the 2000's for example. We played 114 games in the 4th and 3rd Division winning seasons and I missed three, with the rescheduled first leg against Torquay being one of them. Had an afternoon off to travel down for the game and it was called off as we passed Bristol, so couldn't get the following day off as well when it was replayed.

 

[Donegal Wolf]

I'm firmly in the Stowell camp.

Was a really good servant and more than good enough for the time he spent with us, in fact I always felt he could have gone higher. Not sure about his distribution though [mentioned above], I think the new backpass rule hastened his demise.

Was at Mansfield when a keeper got injured in the warm up. It was either Stowell on loan before he signed or the injury gave Stowell his chance, I can't remember. Definitely either one of his first games or should have been one of his first!

Was also in Sir Jack's for the meal after his testimonial. Interestingly all the players from both teams sat together (the Villa ones that stayed) and messed around continually. The likes of Thommo, Dennison and the rest that had come through the divisions with Stowell. Only one player sat away from the others and bar a brief chat when Thommo came over to him, was completely ignored by the rest. Not sure of the reasons why, but Bully didn't seem like a popular former teammate that day.

99% certain it was Stowell who got injured, trod on a nail in the goalmouth or something bizarre like that, we all should have all took that as a sign for us all to go home, lost3-1 and played awful.

Definately one of the best outside the premier league at the time, remember we played Everton in the league cup the season he joined us permenantly and talking to an Everton fan outside Goodison who regularly went to their reserve games, who said they should have kept him as Neville was starting to decline.

Like you can remmber stuff from the late 80's early 90's clear as day, ask me about a game this season nope havent a clue.

 

[Tony Towner]

The bit I had completely forgotten is he went to Preston on loan after his loan spell to us before we signed him permanently

 

[North Shropshire Lad]

trod on a nail in the goalmouth or something bizarre like that

That definitely rings a bell. And from a 'memory' perspective, it was sunny as well!!

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

The bit I had completely forgotten is he went to Prestin on loan after his loan spell to us before we signed him permanently

Yeah, there's a whole year's gap. Kendall was back in goal for 1989/90.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

20. Colin Cameron

Colin Cameron (born 23 October 1972 in Kirkcaldy) is a Scottish football player and manager, who is currently assistant manager of Airdrieonians.

Cameron started his playing career with Raith Rovers. He was part of the Rovers side that won the Scottish League Cup in 1994, leading to the team's first and only foray in Europe, which included the memorable ties against German giants Bayern Munich. He also won two First Division championships with Raith, and won the Scottish Cup with Hearts in 1998.

Cameron made a £1.75m move to English club Wolves in 2001 and played for them in the Premier League. He was capped 28 times by Scotland, scoring twice. He made his international debut on 28 April 1999, in a 1–0 friendly win in Germany.

Cameron moved to Wolves in a £1.75m deal in August 2001. Cameron was a fans' favourite at Wolves, mainly because of his effort and determination. With 23 goals in 168 appearances, Cameron was not a regular goalscorer but contributed some important goals, including the goal that gave the club their first ever Premier League victory in a 1–0 success over Manchester City, and Wolves never lost a match in which he scored. He was a first choice player throughout almost all his time there as he helped the side win promotion to the top flight via the playoffs in 2003, and played for a season at that level before spending two further seasons in the second tier attempting to win promotion back.

By 2006, Cameron's time at Molineux was over, not featuring in manager Glenn Hoddle's future plans at the club. He spent some time on loan to Millwall, before being recalled by Wolves – then in a faltering promotion campaign – and played in their final five games of the season. His performances gained him the support of many fans to remain at the club, but he was not offered a new contract and moved to fellow Championship team Coventry City on a free transfer in June 2006.

 

[Lycan]

Top player.

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[North Shropshire Lad]

Another good servant and really honest player. Maybe not quite PL standard when we got there but a very, very good Championship midfielder. Certainly one of our better central midfielders of the last 30 years. Give me Cameron over McDonald any day.

 

[darlowolf64]

Loved Colin Cameron but he played for my Scottish team Raith Rovers when they beat Celtic in the Scottish League Cup win in 1994 and was delighted that we signed him!

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I liked him on the whole, three negatives though:

1) He fell off a cliff really really quickly. Like he was still pretty good one day and then the next he looked like an old man
2) As with so many of our 90s and early 2000s signings, we should have been trying to sign players like this when he was in his early 20s, not nearly 29. Or signing the 2001 equivalent of him who was younger. Dead money again and a player with no improvement left in him from the day we bought him (was always going to be at best a 50/50 shot at him being good enough for the PL)
3) Whether it was adapting from Scottish football I don't know, but he was visibly knackered in the final couple of months of 01/02. Now it's DJ's fault that he kept picking him (we did have alternatives) but that cost us big time

Not the best technically but he made up for it in other ways. Didn't matter so much as we normally had a better footballer next to him.

Some good memories though and he hated Hoddle, so a plus point there.

 

[Derby Wolf]

Scored a couple of beautiful goals, away at Burnley in 01/02 and Forest away in 02/03 were two of my favourites of that time.

 

[lemonjelly]

Loved him. He was always a consistent player for me. Regular nailed on starter, however agree with DW that his decline was fucking rapid! I can't blame him for the fact the club didn't sign him til he was 29 though, as that would be outside his control. I think that era was one where we only wanted to sign proven players in a vain attempt to guarantee promotion.

 

[Lycan]

I saw him play for Cowdenbeath when he was player manager there, he must've been in his 40s at that point and he was still class. Box to box for 90 minutes, incredible engine.

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[Jack Regan]

Colin Cameron arguably one of worst corner takers I have ever seen, and we've had some really bad ones. Put some fucking pace on them man!

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Yes, his corners were awful :icon_lol:

Mind you this was the era when DJ was asked why we hardly ever scored off set pieces and he said "why bother practising them when you score plenty from open play".

I don't mean to slag him off in so many of these, honest. He just gave me a lot of ammunition...

 

[Kenny]

Ah that just reminds on the last time I listened to a Wolves game live on the Radio!

It went "Ince shoots.....GOOOOOOOOAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL..... Cameron will take the corner" I went from going mental to not having a clue what had just happened. Fucking idiots (I think this was the same guy that used say hard and low shots had gone over the bar)

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Certainly was. George Andrews.

Very rarely did I ever know where the ball was on the pitch. Other than it "spinning away" somewhere.

I think you met me afterwards and asked if it was like close, hit the side netting maybe, or hit the boards behind the goal and bounced back to make the net ripple. Er, no!

 

[Premier Quality]

I loved Colin cameron, great player - Was thrilled when we signed him because he seemed to score a 20 yard screamer every week for hearts, not sure what happened to that once he came down here!

 

[Doctor Doog]

This is him in nets vs Bristol Rovers (Kenny Hibbitt's homecoming, Nigel Martyn playing for them and the first ever game I saw us lose) - a few days before Mansfield. Maybe his debut? I don't know. Line-ups from this era are a bit hard to find, there's a book I had many moons ago which would tell me but that was lost several house moves ago.

I know we couldn't play him in the Sherpa Van which is we ended up with that bellend Hansbury between the sticks vs Torquay. It might have been 31 years ago but I haven't forgiven him.

Still have the book, it helps that I haven't moved house for 25 years. Stowell's debut was a home game against Bury the previous Saturday, 4 - 0 win, Bull (3) and Mutch the scorers.

Line up against Rovers was Stowell, Bellamy, Venus, Streete, Steele (apparently wore no. 5), Vaughan, Thompson, Gooding, Bull, Mutch, Dennison Sub: Downing. I have completely forgotten a huge number of games I've been to, but that is one I do remember, though I don't remember it being Easter Monday,