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Jeremy Corbyn

Presumably David Cameron cosying up to the House of Saud is A-OK.
 
FrankMunro-371 said:
John Major played a significant role in the peace process.
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Yes we know Frank but how did he commence negotiations with the terrorist organisation? Did he jump into bed with them, them with him or did they just happen to meet by chance in his local boozer on a Friday night?
 
Sniffer Grouse said:
Yes we know Frank but how did he commence negotiations with the terrorist organisation? Did he jump into bed with them, them with him or did they just happen to meet by chance in his local boozer on a Friday night?
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http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/05/jeremy-corbyn-should-not-be-allowed-to-rewrite-the-history-of-his-support-for-the-ira/

He didn't speak out against our serving troops, nor ally himself to their cause, something that Corbyn has clearly seen fit to do in the past.

John Major opened up overt discussions with them. The end of a long process, we have always talked to our enemies behind close doors - John Major met Sin Fein on neutral ground so to speak, his concessions were made to give the impression of victory to those that would always fight for nothing less.

The IRA were tired mainly due to our military success, we had effectively neutralised them as an effective unit through successful infiltration. We were never after total surrender after all so it was right to open channels.

As for dealing with dubious foreign sovereignty's, well that is world politics, when is friend an enemy and an enemy a friend - when one has something we would like, and when another has something we want. Putin is made out as a massive threat to the West but his move on the Ukraine could be considered a defence against the likelyhood of them joining NATO, another one on his border effectively threatening Russia's own sovereignty.

Whilst I am in no way aligned to Corbyn or his ideology and beliefs, I have to admire him as a man of his principles. He's not politically savy, he has his beliefs though and I do not doubt works tirelessly for them and with real conviction, and that is something to be admired in this age of politics, too much press goes to smear campaigns, too many polished politicians obsessed with spin and one up manship.

Thats not what I want my government to spend their time and energy on, I know they're human and will have failings as we all do, stop making out you haven't.
 
It would be a "very dangerous experiment" for the UK to give Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn power, Tony Blair has told the BBC's This Week's World.
The former Labour prime minister said the centre ground needed to work out how to recover and get "its mojo back".
 
I'll never forget the morning in 1997 when I got up to find that Tony Blair was the new PM, a bit like the feeling in 1966 when England won the World Cup for me.
Never had much of a problem with his Premiership personally but then again I am a 'Blairite.
 
ROVERT47 said:
I'll never forget the morning in 1997 when I got up to find that Tony Blair was the new PM, a bit like the feeling in 1966 when England won the World Cup for me.
Never had much of a problem with his Premiership personally but then again I am a 'Blairite.
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Blair won by a landslide in 1997, and the most amazing thing is that Labour won seats in the Conservative heartlands. While the Conservative party were unelectable in 97, the manner and size of Labours victory still came as a surprise to me.
 
I do like how in a wide ranged interview, the BBC decide to use that as their title choice.
 
FrankMunro-371 said:
It would be a "very dangerous experiment" for the UK to give Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn power, Tony Blair has told the BBC's This Week's World.
The former Labour prime minister said the centre ground needed to work out how to recover and get "its mojo back".
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This was, is and ever shall be New Labour's problem. Blair and his acolytes genuinely believe they occupy the 'centre ground'. The reality is that economically New Labour was a centre-right party. The other issue is that the centre ground changes and it's futile to try and chase it. If you base your political philosophy on agreeing with whatever 'Mondeo Man' says at a particular moment in time you end up not standing for anything at all. This is the challenge facing Corbyn now and it's a big one. The party had lost it's identity to such an extent that Milliband ended up fighting an election on the 'We'll do what the Tories do but slightly nicer' ticket and it just isn't a strong enough message.
 
FrankMunro-371 said:
It would be a "very dangerous experiment" for the UK to give Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn power, Tony Blair has told the BBC's This Week's World.
The former Labour prime minister said the centre ground needed to work out how to recover and get "its mojo back".
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Tony Blair is a fucking charlatan and now the Labour Party no longer serve his interests he's attacked Corbyn repeatedly whilst being eerily silent on damaging Tory policies. At least he's given up the guise that he's anything other than a Conservative with a red tie.

Regards your comments about Corbyn and terrorists, Frank, what are your thoughts on Cameron dealing with Saudi Arabia and the high profile public executions that country routinely carry out?
 
You do know we've had close dealings with Saudi Arabia for over 80 years now ??
 
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Paul said:
You do know we've had close dealings with Saudi Arabia for over 100 years now ??
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Absolutely. However if a country executes a 17 year old boy for the heinous crime of protesting I would expect us to distance ourselves from that country. Not sell them arms.
 
Paul said:
You do know we've had close dealings with Saudi Arabia for over 100 years now ??
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Really? IIRC KSA was founded in the 1930s. Was the Saud dynasty funding anti-west terrorism back then?
 
Corbyn did vote against Blair's decision to invade Iraq, seems he was right to do so.
 
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