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January Transfer Window, 25/26 Season

I think traditionally that the Wolves crowd has always been 'fair' in general and effort alone has often been the most appreciated attribute. As the underdog and very often a second tier team, fans seemed to know our place, accept that we weren't dining at the top table and so recognise the limitations of the players we had.
Money, media, social media and new fans that perhaps are not generational will have lead to different tolerances and the money that is paid for players, the salaries they receive and the cost of attending or even subscribing has meant expectations are significantly increased and there is a demand that players no longer show effort alone but also the requisite skill sets.

Unfortunately [and I don't blame players for signing contracts to play at leagues above their ability or accept salaries way beyond their worth - we would all do the same] our recruitment doesn't match these expectations. I agree with Alan in some respect that personal attacks on players character are unnecessary and don't sit well, but the exposure and rewards of PL football means assassinations of ability will always take place, rightly or wrongly.

Personally I still get more annoyed with the likes of Hwang [probably unfairly as it's not all his fault] because I see him having a shirt when so many contributary factors suggest he shouldn't, than Munetsi as with him I think he's doing his best and that his best clearly is nowhere near good enough. My ire here (and contradictorily with Hwang) is with the people who scouted, signed* and picked him and not the player himself. Frustrations boil over and people write things that they don't probably mean, especially when there is a keyboard in front of you as you watch the action on TV. Perhaps that's why those of us at the games are slightly more reserved in the comments we make as there isn't that instant ability to write on here how X player or Y player made us feel.

*I'd add not selling Hwang is another frustration especially when we have allegedly received offers way above what his return on the pitch represents.
 
Marshall Munetsi is a committed professional. Despite clear effort his decision-making, positioning, and influence consistently fall short of expectations. Supporters deserve greater quality, sharper execution, and meaningful impact than he has reliably delivered this season at the highest level.
 
Agba all but gone. Offer of £12m in and were are trying to get more (will be sold for £10m...)

Krejci confirmed as being signed permanently in June as he has met the requirements for the buy clause

We enquired about Adam Armstrong from Southampton but have now backed away.

All from Liam.
 
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Surprised that Krejci will be made permanent... of course that doesn't rule out the club doing an Afobe flip once he signs...
 
Surprised that Krejci will be made permanent... of course that doesn't rule out the club doing an Afobe flip once he signs...
Rules of the contract innit.

Highly likely he will leave in the summer though along with the rest of the rats deserting the ship.
 
Agba all but gone. Offer of £12m in a and were are trying to get more (will be sold for £10m...)

Krejci confirmed as being signed permanently in June as he has met the requirements for the buy clause

We enquired about Adam Armstrong from Southampton but have now backed away.

All from Liam.
I’d snap their hands off with that offer.
 
I don't get it to be honest though.

If we have shit players (we do) then what do you want people to say?
I’m not saying I’m holding up a particularly realistic standard.

I vastly prefer “not good enough” to “garbage” or “fucking shit”; even with Hwang and Marshall, “God fuck off with that first touch” doesn’t bug me like “go away and don’t come back”. Criticism doesn’t have to come with such a sharp edge.

Tl,dr; there should be levels between the rhetoric around players like Munetsi, Tchatchoua, etc and the likes of Roger f’ing Johnson, ya know?
 
It's an emotive game, we all have decades tied up in this.

I don't think anyone is getting vitriol that they don't deserve. Strand Larsen and Sa are about the only two who've been called out for not trying.

But trying doesn't make you immune. The likes of Munetsi, Hwang, Doherty and Tchatchoua have absolutely no business being anywhere near a Premier League squad.
 
kinda happy agba is going. by all accounts he's been agitating for a move since summer. the drop off in output has been huge.
 
He's basically had six months in his career where he looked great/got away with it
 
I’m not saying I’m holding up a particularly realistic standard.

I vastly prefer “not good enough” to “garbage” or “fucking shit”; even with Hwang and Marshall, “God fuck off with that first touch” doesn’t bug me like “go away and don’t come back”. Criticism doesn’t have to come with such a sharp edge.

Tl,dr; there should be levels between the rhetoric around players like Munetsi, Tchatchoua, etc and the likes of Roger f’ing Johnson, ya know?
I said he “seems like a nice chap” after saying he wasn’t good enough and I want us to sell him. What more do you want?! 😂

Re; Agba. It’s a shame just how much he’s dropped off this season. At points last season he looked like an absolute Rolls Royce. It sounds like we’re going to get £12m+ for him - so can’t really argue with that.

On a completely different note - nice to see some posts from @Kenny above.
 
I’m not saying I’m holding up a particularly realistic standard.

I vastly prefer “not good enough” to “garbage” or “fucking shit”; even with Hwang and Marshall, “God fuck off with that first touch” doesn’t bug me like “go away and don’t come back”. Criticism doesn’t have to come with such a sharp edge.

Tl,dr; there should be levels between the rhetoric around players like Munetsi, Tchatchoua, etc and the likes of Roger f’ing Johnson, ya know?
If we want to say he's wank we will. Stop preaching man.
 
This is fucking weird. For one, there has been no personal attacks. Two, it’s nothing to do with expectations being higher, tickets being expensive, salaries being higher, the invention of social media or whatever.

We were in league one and KMac, Jacob’s, Henry were good players. They were all better than Marshall Munetsi and Jacob’s barely got a career going at championship level.

I’ve also sat in the ground and told anyone that would listen that Munetsi is awful and then looked at stats on my phone at 80 mins to check what I’ve seen is correct and yes he’s completed 5 passes in that time and touched the ball less than 2 players who came on at 60 minutes. Also, much like me when I was 6 years old, he can only strike the ball if it’s bouncing.

Absolutely dreadful player which was obvious to anyone with eyes after about 5 minutes (same as Jackson). Made worse by the fact we paid €18m for this level of ability for someone in their late 20s and probably then 70k p/w on top of that.

I can’t see how anyone in Ligue 1 is paying him more than half what he’s on here so if we can somehow convince someone to pay most his wages and pay us half our money back in transfer fee in the summer we’ve done well.

And @North Shropshire Lad , criticising Hwang but not Munetsi is just weird. Hwang isn’t good enough, but he was also a fraction of the price and has actually done well at times and has some use if you play to his very limited skillset. He also probably annoys people more as he actually touches the ball in a game (and losing it) rather than hiding from it.
 
We paid basically the same for Marshall as Hwang if you take inflation into account. Both shit 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
I’m not saying I’m holding up a particularly realistic standard.

I vastly prefer “not good enough” to “garbage” or “fucking shit”; even with Hwang and Marshall, “God fuck off with that first touch” doesn’t bug me like “go away and don’t come back”. Criticism doesn’t have to come with such a sharp edge.

Tl,dr; there should be levels between the rhetoric around players like Munetsi, Tchatchoua, etc and the likes of Roger f’ing Johnson, ya know?
It's all in the eye of the beholder
 
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