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Israel-Palestine

visage said:
Of course not. But what benefit does anyone get from supporting PA specifically, rather than any one of the other pro-Palestine groups that are full of violent psychopaths?

Its like saying 'I have to support the Subway Army because they're pro Wolves'. No, you dont.

(I dont even know if SA are still a thing tbh....)
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They're not "full of violent psychopaths" though, are they? There's hyperbole, and there's that.
 
They attacked a policewoman with a sledgehammer, breaking her back in the process. Presumably thats just sparkling contrarianism in your book?
 
visage said:
They attacked a policewoman with a sledgehammer, breaking her back in the process. Presumably thats just sparkling contrarianism in your book?
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Poor attempt at deflection. The point wasn’t that there are no violent psychopaths.
 
OK, sure. How many violent psychopaths are tolerable?

And its a good job nobody makes generalisations about the IDF, right?
 
visage said:
OK, sure. How many violent psychopaths are tolerable?

And its a good job nobody makes generalisations about the IDF, right?
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In any group of people there will be those that go too far, they should face consequences. The examples you gave are and already were criminal acts, punishable in law.and carrying custodial sentences.

The IDF are the armed forces of a government who have, by their own admission, conducted operations in Gaza with the intention of removing the civilian population. In doing so, they have caused the deaths of tens of thousands of people.

But you write this off as a generalisation. Right?
 
So you agree that there should be consequences. I agree.

The proscription of PA is a consequence.
 
From BBC News

Israel's security cabinet has approved the recognition of 19 new settlements in the occupied West Bank as the government continues its settlement expansion push.

Far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, a settler who proposed the move alongside Defence Minister Israel Katz, said the decision was about blocking the establishment of a Palestinian state.

Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank are considered illegal under international law.
 
"The Gaza Health Ministry says that more than 400 people have been killed and 1000 injured since the start of the ceasefire on 10 October."

"Children as young as 8 years old are called "suspects" by the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) and killed for venturing close to the shifting yellow line demarcating their control."

"International journalists have been barred from independently reporting from the strip for more than two years. The drone footage of vast areas of ashen rubble is still shocking through a screen."

"85% of the buildings have been, either partially or totally damaged, with almost 2 million people being currently displaced."
 
It's absolutely fucking sickening, how the world's leaders have just watched on and done nothing is beyond me.
 
Elephant Pyjamas said:
It's absolutely fucking sickening, how the world's leaders have just watched on and done nothing is beyond me.
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Yeah it's broken me really tbh. My bar for world leaders and politicians in general was incredibly low anyway but I always thought there was a 'line' or something you know? There isn't. Just no words anymore.
 
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