Is Vitor Pereira A Good Manager Or Should He Go?

[Quirkafleeg]

I can't believe we haven't seen the corner flag picture yet

 

[Sniffer]

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FFS @Quirkafleeg - @James beat you to that one by about 2 hours

 

[Quirkafleeg]

FFS @Quirkafleeg - @James beat you to that one by about 2 hours

Link me I don't believe you..

 

[jd1981]

Having been cooking dinner for 2 hours and just finished I was hoping to put on SM and see him gone. Hoping it’s done tomorrow, Lage and GON were bombed out the Sunday after games.

 

[James]

Link me I don't believe you..

16.34 (or something like that) in the matchday thread

Genuinely how inept they are

 

[Tony Towner]

This is the state of Wolverhampton Wanderers over the last 3 years:

Patsy manager gets sacked
Patsy DOF gets sacked
New and old Patsy DOF can't get anyone to take the job
Mendes oils the wheels, we spend a fortune, manager keeps us up.

Manager leaves because he was lied to, but equally should have known if the promises he claimed existed did happen then they weren't realistic and uses his mate in the media to get him out. Making him and the CEO look equally bad

Latest patsy DOF employs new patsy manager and with a number of warning signs patsy manager keeps us up. Higher places in the league/cup success are achievable but not worth the investment as in January we are in all likelihood staying up and that's the limit of the ownerships ambition.

Patsy DOF gives patsy manager a new contract because the latter has friends in the press who seed stories the out of depth DoF sees elements of truth in

Club believe for the second year running the promoted clubs are poor and don't invest

Patsy manager proves to be out of his depth coupled with being out of control of the playing squad. Someone sacks him.

Patsy DOF can't get a credible candidate to take the job, principally due to the comments made by the clueless yet autocratic CEO, so Mendes comes in again and offers someone at the lower end of his connections

To the surprise of most he hits the ground running. Money is spent in January, but largely it's the playing squad that's already there that keeps them up.

Buoyed by his success the manager convinces the clueless CEO to get rid of his patsy DOF and bring in his mate.

His mate comes in and has a target list of players, but because of recent history and comments made by the clueless CEO they won't come, so with a £100m+ budget he signs whoever will come, almost irrespective of their quality, including a centre half for £30m that the local paper says could have been signed for half of that a couple of months earlier. He wasn't scouted for a considerable period of time, he just looked good in a pre season friendly against us. That's against the backdrop of the best 2 players leaving and the captain rejecting an incredulously stupid new contract as he'd just had enough.

Worth noting in the above Mendes calls in his favour by pushing in a player for over £20m that didn't then and doesn't now look like a good use of funds, but that's the game.

Those players by and large aren't good enough to the degree that over £20m worth of full backs can't get a game ahead of players loaned out last season and were broadly disappointing.

He gets a new contract, which 3 months earlier would have been expected, but at the time was bizarre


He has a history of falling out with players, he did with the best one last year, although that's at least as much on him and has with our best 2 this. His centre forward who wanted out hasn't tried an inch all season, hiding behind an 'injury' but he doesn't address it.

At some point the manager will get sacked, I'm guessing after the Chelsea defeat next week, in all likelihood his DOF will go with him. They'll both deserve it, but until you chop the head off the snake, all it'll do is add another couple of paragraphs to the years of mismanagment.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

They'll both deserve it, but until you chop the head off the snake, all it'll do is add another couple of paragraphs to the years of mismanagment.

And this is the crux of it.

And because Fosun don't understand football, they only think in binary, nothing will actually change until we finally do go down (and then you would think with tens of millions of pounds wiped off the value of their asset immediately, that constitutes failure and the tosser will finally go).

 

[Keef]

Fosun have owned us for nearly a decade, Jeffs been boss for all of that and still it seems he doesn’t understand football, anybody with a decade in the same job picks knowledge up, just by being in and around other people doing the same, he’s been to enough premier league chairman’s meetings to grasp the basics.
I’ve said before I think he’s messed up another Fosun business and they bought us, put him in charge just to get him out the way, and that’s why they aren’t hugely bothered about us #crapconspiracytheory.

Vitor getting the boot tomorrow apparently, emergency meeting at Compton to sort it, says a random tweeter I follow who’s profile and timeline is all about UK defence in and outs about spending, equipment and behind the scenes stuff so who knows? It’s the only time ever he’s posted a non defence tweet.

 

[jd1981]

Component job done last season ie got the players reaching their expected levels with organisation and bombing out the toxic element.
That was enough to move us away from any danger and comfortably owing to the dreadful state of the bottom 3.
You keep your powder dry in handing over too much power and even think of offering a new contract until he’s proved his worth again at the start of the next season.

 

[nimrod]

I doubt Fosun have learnt much about running a football club in the years they've owned us. other than spending money, generally badly and later than it should have been, what skill set have they demonstrated or picked up. usually an investor wants to appoint an expert CEO who knows the industry. this has felt more like amateur hour at times. I'd have hoped we'd have vastly improved commercial revenues during their times with some sort of innovative marketing in Asia but not really seen anything like that.

I'm grateful to their acquisition for giving us the successes of the Nuno years, but I think we know now there was no real thought out plan, they just got lucky with that appointment and the associated transfers. and rather than try to understand, embrace and emulate that success, instead it hangs like an albatross around Jeff's neck such that he can't now celebrate it but tries instead to denigrate it.

It may not be long before he's doing a Jez Moxey and telling us out average position is 10th in the Championship and even a hopeless bottom place in the Prem must therefore indicate success.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

They have a massive problem looming with ticket prices. What on earth are you doing with them when we go down.

Hack them in half, tacitly admitting you've been massively ripping the fans off?

Keep them at an astronomical level, meaning you don't just get the natural 3-4k minimum drop off that comes with relegation, but an actual exodus?

Thing is I could have told him this two years ago when he hiked them yet again and I'm no marketing genius. Jeff, your model is fine until it isn't fine.

 

[EnglishBob]

We're literally a line on the Fosun spreadsheet. Wolves are an asset, and they want to maximise its value for the minimum of investment. Sucks for the fans hungry for footballing success, all the time being squeezed on ticket prices to witness loss after loss.

“Wolves can become a bigger success than Manchester City.” - Jeff Shi, 2018

 

[Wilf Wolf]

They have a massive problem looming with ticket prices. What on earth are you doing with them when we go down.

Hack them in half, tacitly admitting you've been massively ripping the fans off?

Keep them at an astronomical level, meaning you don't just get the natural 3-4k minimum drop off that comes with relegation, but an actual exodus?

Thing is I could have told him this two years ago when he hiked them yet again and I'm no marketing genius. Jeff, your model is fine until it isn't fine.

No doubt some fools will buy into the inevitable “you get an extra three games” combined with an early signing that is “a signal of our intent to bounce back at the first opportunity “ bollocks.

 

[Keef]

There’ll be be some happy we get four West Midlands derby games as well

 

[thisisgil]

They have a massive problem looming with ticket prices. What on earth are you doing with them when we go down.

Hack them in half, tacitly admitting you've been massively ripping the fans off?

Keep them at an astronomical level, meaning you don't just get the natural 3-4k minimum drop off that comes with relegation, but an actual exodus?

Thing is I could have told him this two years ago when he hiked them yet again and I'm no marketing genius. Jeff, your model is fine until it isn't fine.

By the time next season kicks off, Rachel's economy will have battered the working class to the point where most wouldn't be able to afford a season ticket at half the price they currently are.

 

[James]

By the time next season kicks off, Rachel's economy will have battered the working class to the point where most wouldn't be able to afford a season ticket at half the price they currently are.

I live just short of Preston so for me, my 2 kids & wife. It's £140 for the tickets then you add travelling, a beer, a burger, bottle of pop etc the cost soon adds up for us just to see us lose to bloody Burnley.

I'll wait for Bamber Bridge to host Hednesford & Rushall and I'll probably enjoy the game more

 

[WVWolf]

It's going to be really bad for them when it's directly compared to West Brom and Blues.

I think I read Albion are £439 behind the goals, and Blues' go from £470 to £530. We're £735.

Albion's pricing in particular is very fair, there are lots of age categories and it's cheap.

When we're direct rivals and competing for the same thing, our fans will rightly be fuming when it comes out in the press, which I'm sure it will at some point. Obviously, providing they don't go up. Even so, if they did, they would end up with cheaper tickets than us.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

We have pretty much the highest prices outside of London, it's always been unfathomable.

It broke my heart to give away my season ticket. If you cut me, I bleed gold and black. I had to do it though because it's a scandal and I can have no part in it.

I'll be back, I'll outlive Jeff Shi.