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[Elephant Pyjamas]

Very similar I would say.

- Big club neighbour (but not in the same city)
- Good hardcore fanbase that holds up even if the team goes to shit
- A short spell knocking on the door of the top six in the PL era
- No major trophies since the 70s/80s

Might just swing our way because you're looking at around a decade now since they had a decent PL team and they've been out of the top flight for seven years and counting.

Fair points.

Their major trophies are a distant memory, like ours. But theirs even more so.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I remember being really surprised they were building a 40k stadium, as Roker was only about 20k? And they were getting 16k or 17k.

But they've pretty much always filled it since then.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

As far as I recall they've always done a good job on pricing, can't really say that's true of us recently.

Sunderland are a far bigger club than Boro for me but you could argue the latter have done a bit more in the last 30 years.

 

[Tony Towner]

I remember being really surprised they were building a 40k stadium, as Roker was only about 20k? And they were getting 16k or 17k.

But they've pretty much always filled it since then.

Roker Park was only 20k post Bradford/Hillsborough it was 40k before that.

When they are shit they travel better than we do.

 

[Sniffer]

I remember being really surprised they were building a 40k stadium, as Roker was only about 20k? And they were getting 16k or 17k.

But they've pretty much always filled it since then.

The highest number of spectators was 75,118 for a replay against Derby in 1933. But from the 1970s safety regulations and the installation of seats eventually reduced capacity to 22,657. Roker Park was demolished in 1997 and the club moved to the new Stadium of Light.


It depends on what you class as being bigger. If its league placings over the last few years we are above them having been below them for a while. They've got a bigger ground and used to fill it regularly.

 

[Jack Regan]

2004 for their last FA Cup semi and they made the final in 1992.

They matched our twin 7th placed finishes in 1999/2000 and 2000/01 but that wasn't enough for Europe then.

Definitely similar to us (although we were obviously hit my COVID) in that both clubs failed to build on that with further investment, and take the next step. Looks like we've stopped our slide since though whereas they never managed that.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Definitely similar to us (although we were obviously hit my COVID) in that both clubs failed to build on that with further investment, and take the next step. Looks like we've stopped our slide since though whereas they never managed that.

Dear old Reidy never had an answer to Niall Quinn finally getting too old.

Tore Andre Flo was his effort at doing so and erm, no.

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

As someone who has fans of both teams in the family, I would say we are pretty similar sized but they may just shade it.

Historically, they have spent more seasons in the top flight than us and I would say they have a bigger support. Trophy wise, we're probably pretty similar.

For most of my life, they have been better than us. The last 6 or 7 years have been the rarity where we have been the bigger club.

 

[Sniffer]

When they are shit they travel better than we do.

Missed this earlier but yes they’ve always had a good away following. I may have said this on here before but when Newcastle, Sunderland and us were close to the play off places at the end of the 1989/1990 season, Sunderland packed their section of the South Bank whereas a couple of weeks before Newcastle didn’t.

Edit. I can’t find the attendances for that season just the averages.

 

[Sniffer]

1hr 30 minutes in.

The Newcastle attendance was 100 or so higher but you a see the differences in the away support. Newcastle finished 3rd.

 

[The Dude]

When was the last time they got into Europe or the semi-final of an FA Cup?

Both were ultimately fruitless.

A "big club" is mostly determined by it's history and trophies won. In that respect us and Sunderland are very similar - they've won more league titles but we've won more major honours and our trophies have been won more recently (not very recent though).

Fanbase is the other useful metric. No matter how you look at it, since Sunderland moved from Roker Park they've routinely had larger crowds than us (a bigger stadium helped here obviously). The Mackems get the sort of crowds most Wolves fans (I think) would argue We would have with the same capacity.

Arguing on the strength of international "fan" numbers is laughable. Those numbers are wholly dependent on being in the PL. It's transient "support". The numbers following Wolves and Sunderland on Twitter would pretty much be reversed if the two clubs' fortunes were swapped over.

Looking at it objectively it's hard to separate the two clubs. At their low points in recent times (L1) both have lost about 10,000 fans inside the stadium, while Molineux was often about 1/3 empty, The SoL was almost 1/2 empty but they had bigger gates than us. So I'd say Sunderland's baseline is higher than ours, but we'd benefit from recency bias.

 

[Alan]

You hear that? I'm transient.

We're the bigger club at the moment, IMO. Grain of salt, obv.

 

[The Dude]

You hear that? I'm transient.

We're the bigger club at the moment, IMO. Grain of salt, obv.

Not everyone obviously. There'll be some that had a more organic connection to the club, but they're few and far between when compared to the 2 million Mexicans who now look out for Fulham's results or the Brazilians showing an interest while Gomes and Cunha are here.

 

[Tony Towner]

The Villa game is the official Cunha target. That would be 7 weeks

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

That’s about right for a significant hamstring. We shall see.

 

[1986]

That’s about right for a significant hamstring. We shall see.

Yes , don't think he has any great history either of hamstring injuries . That will aid his recovery . He's a strong lad .

 

[Tony Towner]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1761319257277645102

 

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[Elephant Pyjamas]

Mildly interesting.

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

I was considering taking my son to the Bournemouth game for his first Wolves match. Am I better off wating to see what re-sale tickets become available or should I just go for the best of the handful of seats that are currently available?