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[Alan]

Spending £27m on Guedes who didn't want to be here and having to loan him out 5 months later isn't normal. Neither is expecting and seeming to get a parade for having to fix it.

But they did fix it. Yes, it shouldn’t ever have happened, but they cut bait quickly, which was a necessary move that the club could easily have been too dumb or proud to make.

See: not sacking Lage when it was clear he was a tactical pygmy.

A parade would be silly but Fosun have been good at course correction and should have some credit for that. However, angels they clearly are not.

 

[Tony Towner]

But they did fix it. Yes, it shouldn’t ever have happened, but they cut bait quickly, which was a necessary move that the club could easily have been too dumb or proud to make.

See: not sacking Lage when it was clear he was a tactical pygmy.

How is it fixed? Still on the books and unsellable. We couldn't sign players in the Summer because of it. They couldn't be too dumb, he was pretty much refusing to be here

 

[Alan]

How is it fixed?

He’s not here anymore. Yeah, it’s mostly lame loans he can’t take advantage of, but he isn’t polluting Compton with woe-is-me nonsense.

There’s an extent to which I’m willing to forgive striking out hard on a transfer because it’s just filled with a billion variables. Missing on some, even expensive ones, is inevitable IMV.

You don’t have to be willing to extend the same “forgiveness”, of course.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Apart from signing awful players for stupid money, appointing someone who I wouldn't have managing a pub team (and retaining him) and ridiculous price gouging which means we now have some of the highest ST prices outside London, they're GREAT.

 

[Tony Towner]

Apart from signing awful players for stupid money, appointing someone who I wouldn't have managing a pub team (and retaining him) and ridiculous price gouging which means we now have some of the highest ST prices outside London, they're GREAT.

From your Twiiter post the replies that point out the good signings as some sort of equalising factor for the bad are the most bizarre. If Guedes, Fabio etc had cost the same as Lemina and Dawson it'd work on the win some lose some front. You can't lose so many of your big swings. Anyway touch wood we've moved on from that

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

From your Twiiter post the replies that point out the good signings as some sort of equalising factor for the bad are the most bizarre. If Guedes, Fabio etc had cost the same as Lemina and Dawson it'd work on the win some lose some front. You can't lose so many of your big swings. Anyway touch wood we've moved on from that

Or you can only have Fosun or Dai Yongge. Nothing else.

Planks of fucking wood

 

[Alan]

I don’t see why it’s odd to counter the bad transfers with the good. Moutinho, Neves, Jota… would we have seen any of them in a Wolves shirt with different owners? Maybe, maybe not.

C’est la vie.

 

[Tony Towner]

I don’t see why it’s odd to counter the bad transfers with the good. Moutinho, Neves, Jota… would we have seen any of them in a Wolves shirt with different owners? Maybe, maybe not.

C’est la vie.

Because it's a conversation about FFP and the tremendous job our owners have done to avoid a penalty, when in reality the club was run appallingly for 2 years which got us into trouble in the first place. It's why I don't do Wolves Twitter and don't really know why Deutsch bothers

 

[Alan]

Touché, I suppose.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Because it's a conversation about FFP and the tremendous job our owners have done to avoid a penalty, when in reality the club was run appallingly for 2 years which got us into trouble in the first place. It's why I don't do Wolves Twitter and don't really know why Deutsch bothers

Because sometimes I forget what a Bizarro world it is

 

[Alan]

Because sometimes I forget what a Bizarro world it is

Clearly I'm not doing my job well enough.

 

[C.L.D]

I’m… I mean look it’s not exactly abnormal for me to be this guy, but…

Only the price rises strike me as a real stick to beat Fosun with. The other things are whiffs, no doubt, and Fabio specifically is so hard to defend as a decision, but they mostly feel part and parcel with normal football club dumbness.

I’m not defending Lage, to be absolutely fucking clear.

Fabio, Guedes etc are clear situations of the club/owners letting a Player Agent use the club as a way to make money for himself to the detriment of the team.

How they run the club (or ran, time will tell) makes all those signings and overpays (eg Cunha, Nunes was too, Hwang only now looking like value for a half season for the first time) relevant.

The Mendes connection no doubt helped them make the jump up to the PL relatively quickly but it wasn't to our benefit by time Fabio came over. There's a knock on effect there that led to the Lage era and us looking at the start of this season as a relegation risk (however unlikely that was and has proven not a risk now).

 

[The Bear]

Congratulating them for avoiding FFP is like cheering Richard Stearman for a last ditch sliding challenge. Well no it was your slow ass fault in the first place that you needed to do that.

They deserve plenty of credit from the initial takeover to Nuno leaving though. But that's a different argument.

 

[Squeak]

Spending £27m on Guedes who didn't want to be here and having to loan him out 5 months later isn't normal. Neither is expecting and seeming to get a parade for having to fix it. Neither is appointing an under qualified yes man because your pseudo DoF tells you to as he'll play nicely.

Anyone know if we got a loan fee to offset his transfer fee? Just having someone paying his wages for a couple of years doesn't seem good business to me unless we have a loan fee or an obligation to buy at a fixed price.

 

[Squeak]

Fabio, Guedes etc are clear situations of the club/owners letting a Player Agent use the club as a way to make money for himself to the detriment of the team.

How they run the club (or ran, time will tell) makes all those signings and overpays (eg Cunha, Nunes was too, Hwang only now looking like value for a half season for the first time) relevant.

The Mendes connection no doubt helped them make the jump up to the PL relatively quickly but it wasn't to our benefit by time Fabio came over. There's a knock on effect there that led to the Lage era and us looking at the start of this season as a relegation risk (however unlikely that was and has proven not a risk now).

In fairness though, we did OK when Nuno was here and Mendes made that happen. It's only since Nuno left that we've effectively been raped on transfer fees for talent not fit for the purpose. There has to be something of a trust factor and clearly that wore thing in regard to Fabio and Guedes costing big money and seeing no return.

 

[Tony Towner]

In fairness though, we did OK when Nuno was here and Mendes made that happen. It's only since Nuno left that we've effectively been raped on transfer fees for talent not fit for the purpose. There has to be something of a trust factor and clearly that wore thing in regard to Fabio and Guedes costing big money and seeing no return.

Nuno was here when we signed Fabio

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I would imagine there will be a bit of that but not significant.

I think he is still under contract for another 18 months. So if we sold him now we would need around £12m to come out even in the books allowing for amortisation. A very poor waste of money.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Guedes is signed to 2027. Genuinely has a case for being the worst signing in the history of the club.

Fabio's amortisation only has 1 year to run (so ~£7m) come the summer.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Anyone know if we got a loan fee to offset his transfer fee? Just having someone paying his wages for a couple of years doesn't seem good business to me unless we have a loan fee or an obligation to buy at a fixed price.

Pretty sure the answer is no, Benfica might not even be covering his whole salary. There's no real alternative though unless Jeff Shi becomes Marty McFly.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]