Forest (H) build up 11/12

[Lycan]

I also think we have the players to be in the top six.

As well as K-Mac and Price, Afobe and ALF would be the first-choice partnership for most, if not all, teams in this league, while Iorfa is one of the best right-backs at this level. Not to mention the likes of Henry and Batth who can both be very effective on their day.

The blame has to lie at the manager's feet.

I said it to DW after the Burnley game. With the exception of Edwards not getting close enough to Afobe we had a quality spine to our side. Straight forward, no thrills, tried and tested Championship football.

Martinez - Batth/Williamson - Price/Macca - Afobe/Alfie.

We went head to head with Burnley's 4-4-2 (Heaton - Duff/Keane - Jones/Barton - Gray/Vokes) and more than matched them. If Sean Dyche had been in charge of Wolves this season we'd have seen that sort of team week in week out, we'd have won far more games than we'd have lost and would've been in the mix with BHA/Boro/Derby/Hull/Burnley.

 

[lemonjelly]

I'd be very wary of judging levels of apathy by how long a thread on a semi-obscure message board is. The FA Cup Third Round one is getting close to four pages, does that mean we all think we're on our way to Wembley?

Fair point. It isn't my only barometer, I just used it as a yardstick.

I just feel that the overwhelming word to use to describe our season is probably "meh". I haven't understood how others (some posters, but also friends) have appeared to lose the desire for all things WWFC. I guess I'm worried that it has on occasion started to happen to me, though as saturday 3pm (or whatever other time we're scheduled) approaches, it returns with a vengeance.

 

[Lycan]

Yes. I think Price has actually upped his game a bit this season - his passing to me is better, and more cutting. I've been impressed with some of his forward balls. I was a big fan before, so the man crush is just elevating.

Tactical decisions and team selection is where we're falling down this season.

I thought Price's performance at Rotherham was top class but you wont find many people who gave him MOTM because we just didn't get him enough of the ball. He's being criminally underused in this system. Stick him into the first XI of any of this season's top 5 and he'd be a key player, controlling possession and switching the play with sharp, decisive passing.

 

[Papper]

There was much talk three years ago about creating a Wolves identity so that each player at every level would know his role. My question is " should the fans be consulted when the Wolves way is considered?

If the fans wished for 4-4-2 with two wingers and two strikers should the board seek out one of the better coaches of that system. For me there can be no excuse for not trying to play entertaining attacking football at home.

The use of out and out wingers and a big man, small man in the middle seems a dying art at the top level these days but if we could reciprocate the Jarvis, Kightly, BCI, SEB combo the chances are we could rise the table.

Graham, Holt, Afobe and Byrne.

I can sniff the headlines now : Grant Holt the cult hero of the South Bank bags brace as Wolves beat Derby at Wembley.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Yeah, the problem being that Iwelumo could still run and jump when we had him.

Mentioned on the Other Football part the other day, too many managers (especially at this level) are playing one up front for no appreciable gain when they don't have the midfielders or wide players to make it work, or often even a proper candidate to play that role up front.

 

[Papper]

Yeah, the problem being that Iwelumo could still run and jump when we had him.

Mentioned on the Other Football part the other day, too many managers (especially at this level) are playing one up front for no appreciable gain when they don't have the midfielders or wide players to make it work, or often even a proper candidate to play that role up front.

Yep, think Holt might need a specialised role. The Mick Quinn method or a basketball tactic. Was listening to Danny Higginbottom describing why UTD misfire. An inability to release balls into dangerous areas through the channels quickly and fluidly. I think we can actually do that but the running and creation of space by others ahead of Price and Mac isn't really on the same wavelength. But I've always thought we sit deeper because our defence is crap.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

We badly miss the easy out ball to Dicko and his ability to stretch defences even when we were playing poorly. I don't know if we can get a similar effect by playing Benik and Alfie up front in a proper two because we've never tried it. I think it would work, the concern really is whether KMac and Jacko are good enough defensively in a two. I say just go for it at this stage, I've had enough of entire halves of football where we have one proper chance at best.

 

[Papper]

I don't think he knows whether to use one of Price or Mac further forward or keep them deeper and hope the full backs can get in amongst it. The latter doesn't seem to work that well. Dicko is a massive loss but he was in a strange sulk from day one. For me Afobe and ALF have to play so do Price and Mac. I'd play a 'loose' 4-3-3 with Graham or Byrne and Coady being the other two. One of Price Coady and Mac playing an advanced role in the midfield three. The top three interchanging but it all means tempo, passing and movement.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

http://www.skysports.com/share/10095192

Alfie is a fucking geezer. I love him.

 

[lemonjelly]

I thought Price's performance at Rotherham was top class but you wont find many people who gave him MOTM because we just didn't get him enough of the ball. He's being criminally underused in this system. Stick him into the first XI of any of this season's top 5 and he'd be a key player, controlling possession and switching the play with sharp, decisive passing.

Agree. Though the mk dons game was largely turgid, he played a couple of forward passes that were excellent.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Really looking forward to tomorrow night now. Hope I have got my Wolves mojo back, as the last few weeks have been a feeling of apathy of Hoddlesque levels.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Peter Knowles last game was against Nottingham Forest. 1969 I think, in a thrilling 3-3 draw. Every time we play Forest I always think of Knocker and what could have been. He was a special talent.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

You got to see him play Frank. I am slightly envious. Then again you saw my hero play, and the Doog retired before I started school.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

You got to see him play Frank. I am slightly envious. Then again you saw my hero play, and the Doog retired before I started school.

My opinion was, is, and always will be, that after George Best, Knocker was the best footballer in the league. As for the Doog, his right foot was useless, his left foot was very good, and he had few equals in the air. But the great thing about the Doog was that he was a showman. He entertained people, and back then that was what the game was about.

Sorry for going off thread.

 

[Dinowolf]

Peter Knowles last game was against Nottingham Forest. 1969 I think, in a thrilling 3-3 draw. Every time we play Forest I always think of Knocker and what could have been. He was a special talent.

Agree 100%

 

[rogerthecat]

Looking forward to this now we've finally remembered how to score. Took our daughter to the Molineux last year, her first away game, and she's been singing "Yam yam yam yam" to her Penn born mum and her granddad ever since

Come on you Reds!

 

[Deleted Cyber]

apathy. Cant wait to see a 4-5-1 or other defensive line up centered around Dangerous Dave with Afobe on the bench warming the seat while a bang average forest side are made to look world beaters in our back yard. Would love us to win but think we will get done 2-0

 

[North West Wanderer]

Wolves win Edwards to score no credit to be given[emoji16]

 

[Lord Knows]

Wolves win Edwards to score no credit to be given[emoji16]

I honestly believe Kenny Jackett has seen the error in his ways and will select the goal scoring option of Benik Afobe supporting Alf.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Actually feeling rather excited about this. I love a night game.