Coronavirus

[Paddingtonwolf]

As most of my family are in Oz and won’t be popping over for a bit of Christmas dinner I am not wildly enamoured with spending 25 days absolutely alone so others can have a family knees up. Fuck that.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

It's being carried by all the RWP, therefore a pretty reliable leak. It's also ill though out bollocks, you can be in a 4 household bubble so if I use mine as an example we can see my wife's mum + partner and 2 sisters + families. Therefore none of the 4 blokes can see any of theirs. Impossible to police and people will do as they please.

We'd be similar, me and my partner always go to our respective parents at Christmas so that's 3 households linked straight away. Then my sister going to my parents too would complete the 4 so that's the limit for both families.

Neither of our parents could see any of their parents or siblings.

 

[pacamac]

The vaccine popping up should help them. Already set for over 20 million to get stabbed and that is before the Oxford one is given the thumbs up (if it works the same as the other vaccines, then over 50m will have access to that one). Anyone confident that the Government will do this well and have a properly run programme with minimal issues?

No chance we all know it'll be handed over to Tory donors/MP's relatives etc.

 

[Paul]

No chance we all know it'll be handed over to Tory donors/MP's relatives etc.

Sigh !

 

[AndyWolves]

Cases have been dropping for the last few days and the ZOE study has been showing a reduction in new cases and an overall decline in symptomatic cases.

I know it's a bit premature but if the vaccines start getting rolled out soon they may help drive down cases even further before we hit Christmas.

The schools will be shut over Christmas too so I think there is an argument we can "swap" schools for hospitality over the Xmas period. Following the Xmas period leave hospitality open and open up schools.

I think Xmas won't result in a huge increase in cases because there won't be as much mingling as there would be by kids going into schools, a decline may actually happen.

I'm tentatively hopeful that Jan may see a slight rollback in restrictions but this is largely dependent on vaccines having an impact about a week after they've been given

 

[pacamac]

Delays to that fast track open to everyone test centre in Wolverhampton.

Can understand the thinking behind these 'test all' testing centres but do worry the inevitable and compared to other areas artificial rise in cases will then be used as unbalanced restrictions in those areas ie Wolverhampton being one.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-birmingham-54933809?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=5fb63ef265be0302b81c3e08%26Delay+to+fast-turnaround+Covid-19+testing+centre%262020-11-19T10%3A02%3A06.352Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn%3Aasset%3Af7647a4f-9f36-47dd-af3d-c2a53f6c1ee0&pinned_post_asset_id=5fb63ef265be0302b81c3e08&pinned_post_type=share&at_custom3=Regional+BBC+Midlands&at_custom4=ADD9A576-2A4F-11EB-932C-D7610EDC252D&at_custom1=image&at_medium=custom7&at_campaign=64&at_custom2=twitter

 

[Tredman]

You would hope they would look at the test positivity rate and use that as part of the measures implemented.

One of my twins goes back to school tomorrow after 2 weeks at home - the exact same day they are planning to test everyone in the school. I expect him back isolating within a day or so.

 

[Kenny]

Sigh !

You sigh but its an easy accusation to make, considering what has happened over PPE and Track and Trace. Its become so clear that even the Daily Mail are running stories on it to show the high level of what is essentially corruption.

 

[Tredman]

Nah, corruption only occurs in the 'third world'

 

[lemonjelly]

Cases have been dropping for the last few days and the ZOE study has been showing a reduction in new cases and an overall decline in symptomatic cases.

I know it's a bit premature but if the vaccines start getting rolled out soon they may help drive down cases even further before we hit Christmas.

The schools will be shut over Christmas too so I think there is an argument we can "swap" schools for hospitality over the Xmas period. Following the Xmas period leave hospitality open and open up schools.

I think Xmas won't result in a huge increase in cases because there won't be as much mingling as there would be by kids going into schools, a decline may actually happen.

I'm tentatively hopeful that Jan may see a slight rollback in restrictions but this is largely dependent on vaccines having an impact about a week after they've been given

pretty optimistic Andy!
Think the companies have advised manufacturing the vaccines is going to also take time. Their expectation is that it'll be in the new year when vaccines will physically be available.

I think the risk is there is going to be a lot more mingling, not less, as there will be numerous cross household crossovers. Also, it'll be in places where space is limited (peoples own homes). With celebratory alcohol flowing, people might not be as careful as usual.

I like seeing your optimism though! Brings a balance to my pessimism!

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1329393751769423872

Oh please.

Yeah, fine, you have a leak at 2am, get the wallet out, this is going to hurt. I can go along with that bit.

What you wouldn't do is phone up your mate who builds conservatories, then when he obviously can't do it, pay him anyway.

Plus when has that bellend ever called a tradesman in his life, ever.

 

[Kenny]

Using his explanation - They knew the pipes were dodgy months before they finally burst. So you know, could have called out a plumber early doors to get him to look at them and maybe replace.

 

[pacamac]

I can let the government off with a lot of its MANY failings over this virus, to be fair it was relatively new to everyone and nobody really knows the best way to have gone about it.

One thing that should never be forgotten is this back handed spending of public money. Honestly these people should be up in courts with jury's hearing evidence. Contracts should be frozen and companies made to pay back money.

The worst thing is the seeming acceptance of the British public of it all.....oh well its the Tories/Government its what they do hand out contracts to their (often ill equipped) pals/family. NO in any other walk of life its fucking fraud, that's our money!

 

[Kenny]

I can let the government off with a lot of its MANY failings over this virus, to be fair it was relatively new to everyone and nobody really knows the best way to have gone about it.

You would have hoped our leader would have taken it seriously in Febuary but instead he dodged meetings and had holidays, despite the fact just over the channel the virus was crippling countries

 

[pacamac]

You would have hoped our leader would have taken it seriously in Febuary but instead he dodged meetings and had holidays, despite the fact just over the channel the virus was crippling countries

Thats true maybe 'let off' was a bad choice of words but he's shit/useless he can't help it thats what he does thats on the voters of the country who voted him in but the downright theft of public money to make their rich mates richer especially at a time of a pandemic no that feels far more sinister and unforgivable. Heads should be rolling, people should be up in arms but it'll pass by like everything else.

 

[Paul]

You would have hoped our leader would have taken it seriously in Febuary but instead he dodged meetings and had holidays, despite the fact just over the channel the virus was crippling countries

On 12 March, President Emmanuel Macron announced on public television that all schools and all universities would close from Monday 16 March until further notice. The next day, Prime Minister Édouard Philippe banned gatherings of more than 100 people, not including public transport. The following day, the prime minister ordered the closure of all non-essential public places, including restaurants, cafés, cinemas and nightclubs, effective from that midnight.[14] On 16 March, Macron announced mandatory home lockdown for 15 days starting at noon on 17 March.[15] This was extended twice and ended on 11 May,

Yep, on the ball over the Channel, but don't let facts get in the road of you stirring the pot

 

[Kenny]

Yep, on the ball over the Channel, but don't let facts get in the road of you stirring the pot

Did I say they were on the ball? Just stated it was crippling them I believe.

Now, did Boris skip around 5 COBRA meetings on the virus because he didn't think it was worth his time?. Instead going on shows like This Morning to have selfies with Phillip Schofield and telling us it would be better if it ripped through the nation. Then telling the press he wouldn't stop shaking hands with people and that he shook hands with folk with the virus in hospital...as I said, it might have been good if he took it slightly more serious than he did.

Not one Government have got this situation right (maybe a shout out to New Zealand) because it is generally impossible to do so but call me a fucker here, but I like my head of Government to treat serious things in a serious manner rather than brushing it off, waffling bollocks, trying to get a laugh and as it turns out, help fill his mates pockets with a few ££

 

[machin05]

Tawain seem to have nailed it, too.

 

[The Bear]

Australia has very few cases too.

 

[Tony Towner]

Australia has very few cases too.

I hear Melbourne had quite a strict lowdown though...