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No, it's very measurable. And very problematic, because 2/3rds of sea level rise is down to thermal expansion.

There is no measurable acceleration of sea level rise, rise has occured at a steady rate in the present interglacial as would be expected ~3mm/year.
Don't forget that the land and ocean basins are not a constant either, how are you going to tax that now your beloved Natalie didn't make it?
Owen Paterson for Energy minister I hope.
 
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Stupid woman didn't check Thatcher's final thoughts:
In 2003, towards the end of her last book, Statecraft, in a passage headed "Hot Air and Global Warming", she issued what amounts to an almost complete recantation of her earlier views. She voiced precisely the fundamental doubts about the warming scare that have since become familiar to us. Pouring scorn on the "doomsters", she questioned the main scientific assumptions used to drive the scare, from the conviction that the chief force shaping world climate is CO2, rather than natural factors such as solar activity, to exaggerated claims about rising sea levels. She mocked Al Gore and the futility of "costly and economically damaging" schemes to reduce CO2 emissions. She cited the 2.5C rise in temperatures during the Medieval Warm Period as having had almost entirely beneficial effects. She pointed out that the dangers of a world getting colder are far worse than those of a CO2-enriched world growing warmer. She recognised how distortions of the science had been used to mask an anti-capitalist, Left-wing political agenda which posed a serious threat to the progress and prosperity of mankind

A least Rome wasn't built in a day, we can at least expect progress on hydraulic fracturing and the elimination of subsidy for onshore wind. Decisions will have to be made on conventional generation projects within the next year too. Baby steps...
DECC really is a place that you do not want a useful idiot in charge though.
 
Rome wasn't built in a day but it also wasn't built using methods that could have poisoned its citizens.

Poor comparison.
 
Rome wasn't built in a day but it also wasn't built using methods that could have poisoned its citizens.

Poor comparison.

Poisoned? Carbon dioxide a poison?
If you are refering to the anti-fracking nonsense identify any death over and above unfortunate industrial accidents. Find me a risk free energy generation method whether it be during contruction or operation.
 
Pretty sure Rome was built with a lead water pipe distribution system and did poison it's citizens.
 
Pretty sure Rome was built with a lead water pipe distribution system and did poison it's citizens.

Citizenship of classical Rome was risky in itself although there might be a circular connection that this was due to madness induced lead poisoning.
 
Poisoned? Carbon dioxide a poison?
If you are refering to the anti-fracking nonsense identify any death over and above unfortunate industrial accidents. Find me a risk free energy generation method whether it be during contruction or operation.
As I stated a long time ago. CO2 is a toxic gas.

WEL 5000ppm LTEL.
 
Pretty sure Rome was built with a lead water pipe distribution system and did poison it's citizens.

Aye but they weren't aware of that possibility.
 
Poisoned? Carbon dioxide a poison?
If you are refering to the anti-fracking nonsense identify any death over and above unfortunate industrial accidents. Find me a risk free energy generation method whether it be during contruction or operation.

What about the literally millions of people that will be adversely affected, and in some cases killed, as a result of fossil fuel induced climate change?
 
If it isn't anthropogenic then that raises two questions:

1. What is causing it?
2. Why are the emissions we've created *not* having an effect?

Got an answer yet?
 
What about the literally millions of people that will be adversely affected, and in some cases killed, as a result of fossil fuel induced climate change?

Proof that has or will occur solely down to carbon dioxide emissions please. Defering toxic waste and emissions to the likes of China should be your concern.
 
Proof that has or will occur solely down to carbon dioxide emissions please. Defering toxic waste and emissions to the likes of China should be your concern.

Humans can't breathe CO2, so that's something.
 
Indeed. I didn't want to be a pedant.
 
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