Boris at it again and the contest to replace the lying c***

[EpsomWolf]

Much as I would love him to go in the moment and that clip off him walking into the car outside number 10 for the last time would be joyous, I hope he stays until the next election. He's individually more toxic than any PM at least in the last century and the party deserves the absolute destruction it would get in a GE under him. Unfortunately it wont happen.

Ironically the self serving, unprincipled, corrupt, not a real politician shtick that made him popular is what's going to bring him down. What he, his enablers and the simpletons/bigots in our electorate have done to this country over the last 6 years will take 60 to fix

I think everything hinges now on the rail strikes. People have already made their minds up about Johnson, the Tories only hope is convincing people a Labour government would be worse. It’s a shame the rail strikes are coming first as there’s not as much public sympathy for those as with other sectors and it’s much easier to present this as a militant union/warning to what life would be like under Labour thing. Difficult balancing act for Starmer and Labour now. The Tories will be going all-out divide and conquer and the strikes give them that opportunity.

I think the Tories will gamble on a long, hard-line summer and a Labour implosion. If Labour hold their nerve the Tories will have no choice but to ditch him. All eyes on you Mr Starmer.

 

[AndyWolves]

I think baggage handlers are going to be striking too

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Much as I would love him to go in the moment and that clip off him walking into the car outside number 10 for the last time would be joyous, I hope he stays until the next election. He's individually more toxic than any PM at least in the last century and the party deserves the absolute destruction it would get in a GE under him. Unfortunately it wont happen.

Ironically the self serving, unprincipled, corrupt, not a real politician shtick that made him popular is what's going to bring him down. What he, his enablers and the simpletons/bigots in our electorate have done to this country over the last 6 years will take 60 to fix

I’d like to think that’s the case but just imagine the war in Ukraine ends, China gets back on its feet, oil prices fall and inflation falls. He’ll claim the credit for everything and the fuckwits who fell for his bullshit last time will say he deserves more time to deliver levelling up etc as circumstances conspired against him...

Th only reason he’s still in post is because there are no half decent replacements that won’t tear the Tory party apart. I’d rather he goes now and the Tories end up in-fighting and become unelectable for a lot longer than a single election.

 

[EpsomWolf]

I think baggage handlers are going to be striking too

Baggage handlers won’t get much sympathy, too many obvious stereotypes and an easy target for Union culture etc. (Not suggesting they are not justified btw).

The Tories need to be careful though when the strikes spill over into more compassionate sectors, teaching, healthcare etc. It’s a shame they are not happening that way round first.

 

[Johnny75]

Baggage handlers won’t get much sympathy, too many obvious stereotypes and an easy target for Union culture etc. (Not suggesting they are not justified btw).

The Tories need to be careful though when the strikes spill over into more compassionate sectors, teaching, healthcare etc. It’s a shame they are not happening that way round first.

I don't agree with that and the argument has been put across succinctly this morning.

BA asked the employees to take a 10% pay cut during the pandemic and now refuse to give it back. There will be plenty of legal challenges to this one and it is completely justified.

 

[Sniffer]

Baggage handlers won’t get much sympathy, too many obvious stereotypes and an easy target for Union culture etc. (Not suggesting they are not justified btw).

The Tories need to be careful though when the strikes spill over into more compassionate sectors, teaching, healthcare etc. It’s a shame they are not happening that way round first.

I would imagine that the baggage handlers dispute should be settled quickly. They were basically told to accept a 10% pay cut during lockdown or they will be fired. Now they are working under extreme pressures due to staffing issues and BA would be stupid to allow this dispute to go ahead.

 

[EpsomWolf]

I don't agree with that and the argument has been put across succinctly this morning.

BA asked the employees to take a 10% pay cut during the pandemic and now refuse to give it back. There will be plenty of legal challenges to this one and it is completely justified.

Apologies, I made the mistake of isolating baggage handlers, not linking them with the more publicised BA cabin crew strike (BA staff generally) etc. You are right though, what’s happened to them is a scandal, it seems much more black and white than the rail workers dispute and easier for the public to relate to and support.

 

[lemonjelly]

Yeah, there is a growing volume of potential industrial unrest. Heathrow staff have voted to strike. Barristers are striking re criminal legal aid (still being kept out the papers mind!) There are also reports that NHS staff are going to have caps of 3% increases to their pay, and their unions are warning of "industrial unrest" whatever that means. We haven't even got to the education sector, and we know full well that rishi will want to cap local authority staff pay at as close to 1% as possible.

 

[darlowolf64]

I think everything hinges now on the rail strikes. People have already made their minds up about Johnson, the Tories only hope is convincing people a Labour government would be worse. It’s a shame the rail strikes are coming first as there’s not as much public sympathy for those as with other sectors and it’s much easier to present this as a militant union/warning to what life would be like under Labour thing. Difficult balancing act for Starmer and Labour now. The Tories will be going all-out divide and conquer and the strikes give them that opportunity.

I think the Tories will gamble on a long, hard-line summer and a Labour implosion. If Labour hold their nerve the Tories will have no choice but to ditch him. All eyes on you Mr Starmer.

Not the opinion I got on the picket line yesterday. The obvious horn tooting, bus drivers, posties, general work vans all giving signs of solidarity as well as normal people in their cars.
Multiple members of the general public pulled over with gifts of cookies, cakes, large packs of water and words of support and Darlington is tory.
Maybe it's different down south but up in the North East (Darlo, Boro, Newcastle etc) the support is strong

 

[darlowolf64]

Apologies, I made the mistake of isolating baggage handlers, not linking them with the more publicised BA cabin crew strike (BA staff generally) etc. You are right though, what’s happened to them is a scandal, it seems much more black and white than the rail workers dispute and easier for the public to relate to and support.

And that's what the tories do. Pick the highest paid of any section of the employee and people are suckered in to thinking that ALL of the staff earn that much. It's a weak ploy but their supporters blindly accept their reports without fact checking because, why would the Government lie? They wouldn't, surely...

 

[Derby Wolf]

 

[EpsomWolf]

Not the opinion I got on the picket line yesterday. The obvious horn tooting, bus drivers, posties, general work vans all giving signs of solidarity as well as normal people in their cars.
Multiple members of the general public pulled over with gifts of cookies, cakes, large packs of water and words of support and Darlington is tory.
Maybe it's different down south but up in the North East (Darlo, Boro, Newcastle etc) the support is strong

Oh I’m sure, you’ll find support every where, I should have said it’s not overwhelming support which is a divide the tories are going to want to prise open.

I’ve no doubt if I was an RMT member I’d be fully behind the strikes too. But as an outsider I want to be supportive but am struggling - (hands up to any ignorance here) - Lynch’s points seem fair, but, we’re post pandemic, numbers are down, we’re all struggling, the economy is shot (etc etc etc) and it does seem reasonable to think there has to be compromise. Lynch doesn’t appear willing and wants his cake and eat it. No government can be seen to roll over if those are the circumstances (?) - there has to be compromise. Again, I apologise if there’s plenty of compromise already and it’s passed me by, but it’s a message that Lynch needs to get out there loud and clear to get/keep people onside.

 

[darlowolf64]

Oh I’m sure, you’ll find support every where, I should have said it’s not overwhelming support which is a divide the tories are going to want to prise open.

I’ve no doubt if I was an RMT member I’d be fully behind the strikes too. But as an outsider I want to be supportive but am struggling - (hands up to any ignorance here) - Lynch’s points seem fair, but, we’re post pandemic, numbers are down, we’re all struggling, the economy is shot (etc etc etc) and it does seem reasonable to think there has to be compromise. Lynch doesn’t appear willing and wants his cake and eat it. No government can be seen to roll over if those are the circumstances (?) - there has to be compromise. Again, I apologise if there’s plenty of compromise already and it’s passed me by, but it’s a message that Lynch needs to get out there loud and clear to get/keep people onside.

It will take 6 words to get the talks on the road to being sorted... "There will be no compulsory redundancies". I can assure you there will be no need for compulsory as many are sick to death of working their arse off (as they did throughout the pandemic) to be treated like shit by the bosses.
Many will happily take a deal and walk away.

We were asked to forego a pay rise through covid, we didn't take a bonus (probably the time we've really earned it by keeping the trains running) and are now close to 4 years without any pay increase while everything rises. We are a workforce that embrace modernisation but it can't be done at the expense of safety and giving them carte blanche to get rid of people (they are so stupid that they will bin all the blokes with years of knowledge) and try to take on younger workers on new terms and conditions on lower starting wages which will cause problems for years to come.

This doesn't just apply to us, but to NHS workers, Civil Servants (the ones that do all the work) Posties, in fact every low paid worker that this Government have allowed to get into pay/cost of living poverty while they have lined their own and their mates pockets, wasted money on track and trace and have found £112m to give to an African country that oppresses the opposition politicians to do a "deal" to get rid of any immigrant they want to. The money would have been better spent working with the French government to stop the boats getting in to the Channel and have a real, proper, working application process for these people to go through to earn safe passage to the UK

 

[EpsomWolf]

It will take 6 words to get the talks on the road to being sorted... "There will be no compulsory redundancies". I can assure you there will be no need for compulsory as many are sick to death of working their arse off (as they did throughout the pandemic) to be treated like shit by the bosses.
Many will happily take a deal and walk away.

We were asked to forego a pay rise through covid, we didn't take a bonus (probably the time we've really earned it by keeping the trains running) and are now close to 4 years without any pay increase while everything rises. We are a workforce that embrace modernisation but it can't be done at the expense of safety and giving them carte blanche to get rid of people (they are so stupid that they will bin all the blokes with years of knowledge) and try to take on younger workers on new terms and conditions on lower starting wages which will cause problems for years to come.

This doesn't just apply to us, but to NHS workers, Civil Servants (the ones that do all the work) Posties, in fact every low paid worker that this Government have allowed to get into pay/cost of living poverty while they have lined their own and their mates pockets, wasted money on track and trace and have found £112m to give to an African country that oppresses the opposition politicians to do a "deal" to get rid of any immigrant they want to. The money would have been better spent working with the French government to stop the boats getting in to the Channel and have a real, proper, working application process for these people to go through to earn safe passage to the UK

Thanks for the reply, some good points well made.

Any union is going to fight compulsory redundancies, that’s a given, but it does seem odd that is made a condition when so many would want to leave ordinarily. I guess that’s where we get to the nitty-gritty and see the dirty tactics employed. You guys are best placed to know about that sort of detail.

Always difficult going into battle with an opponent that doesn’t play with a straight bat. Good luck with your fight.

 

[darlowolf64]

Its the fact that once "compulsory redundancy" is written in, it won't be removed and, again, will affect railway workers in the future, not just in the short term

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Bozo presser in Kigali mysteriously delayed. Check the fridges…

 

[Sniffer]

Bozo presser in Kigali mysteriously delayed. Check the fridges…

Must be spreading. The Conservative candidate for Tiverton and Honiton last night locked herself in the dance studio part of the sports centre of where the count was and refused to speak to anybody.

 

[YoungWolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1540311832035991552

..

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Hi Nads.

If you lose a majority of 20k+ in a seat which you've held permanently since it was created 25 years ago, and the same thing happened six months ago, I think it tells you *something*.

PS - how did World Wars 3-10 end up?

 

[Tony Towner]

You lost, get over it

https://twitter.com/x/status/1540360061507231745