Boris at it again and the contest to replace the lying c***

[Boozad]

In all honesty I find it more and more difficult to have a political conversation at all these days, let alone a sensible one. People either don’t care or haven’t got a clue. Or both.

 

[lemonjelly]

It seems to me that the lib dems and greens are where the "protest votes" have gone to. Fairly standard message - labour or tory voters are very unlikely to switch to their polar opposite party.

 

[lemonjelly]

Granted these are just locals, but I’m getting to the stage of dispairing about the electorate. I could just about follow the logic of some people voting Tory to keep the scary Corbyn out after his all-to-easy demonisation by the media and all of the terrible things he was going to do to you and the country you love, but with Starmer in place you must be voting Tory because you think they are doing/are best placed to be doing a good job?

The blue-rinsers and rabid right-wing nutters are long lost, but there’s an awful lot of central ground I’m just not understanding here. By what measure anyone with any sort of balanced view whatsoever could possibly consider this bunch of charlatans worthy of a single vote is lost on me.

I lost faith in 2016, and that faith was already withered across 2010 somewhat, and moreso in 2015.

I think within the UK, particularly england, there is a distinct lack of engagement and awareness of politics and political issues. My feeling is that in both parts of Ireland, Wales, and Scotland this isn't the case.

Unfortunately this means that many either disengage totally, or make decisions based on a wholesale lack of relevant information and in ignorance of facts, and it instead is a popularity and soundbite contest. Cameron was all soundbite without any actual substance. The vote leave campaign was more of this - throwing out slogans with virtually no meaning or thought behind them other than whether they would work as slogans, and we now have a pm who on a daily basis displays an ignorance or wilful disregard of factual information.

 

[Sniffer]

Protect your own position above anything else.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1522502690097487872

 

[Trips]

Protects him for 12 months if he wins doesn't it?

 

[Sniffer]

Protects him for 12 months if he wins doesn't it?

Yes

 

[Del Woppio]

He wouldn't just win it, he'd piss it. Unless he gets caught noncing or has a heart attack he'll be in number 10 for another 8 years

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Unless he gets caught noncing or has a heart attack he'll be in number 10 for another 8 years

They'd still vote for if he was dead and/or a paedo

 

[Sniffer]

Tories would lose almost 90 seats at general election on basis of local election results, says Sky analysis​

Sky News has now presented its overall assessment of the results. Like the BBC, it tries to assess what would have happened if there had been elections in all of Britain, instead of just in certain areas. But it focuses on trying to assess what that would mean if people had voted in a general election in the same way, and it says the Conservatives would be the largest party - but almost 50 seats short of a majority.

Here are the projections.

Conservatives: 278 seats (down 87 on 2019)

Labour: 271 (up 68)

SNP: 50 (up 2)

Lib Dems: 23 (up 12)

 

[Sniffer]

They'd still vote for if he was dead and/or a paedo

Not if he kicked a dog.

 

[nimrod]

Not if he kicked a dog.

they’d still forgive that, he’d need to fuck it afterwards

 

[Tredman]

Their previous leader literally fucked a dead pigs head. I really don’t think their voters are that bothered.

 

[Tony Towner]

It's a world view, a lot of English people hate foreigners and the underprivileged. Its the RWM's job to continue to flame that.

Thatcher's council house flog off was a game changer. There's a reason Tory leaders always come back to the greatest hits

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Conservatives now well over 300 seats down. Ouch. Liberal Democrats have had a superb night, as have the Greens. Labour have done well, but not much more than that.

 

[Kenny]

Going off the Daily Mail scale of disaster to triumph though its been a disaster for the Tories and a triumph for Labour. Probably redoing that scale at the moment though

 

[Tredman]

What an utterly fucked up electoral system

The BBC’s projected national vote share put Labour at 35 per cent, the Conservatives on 30 per cent and the Liberal Democrats on 19 per cent. A Sky News projection said that the same pattern in a general election would make the Conservatives the largest party, on 278 seats. But they would be 48 seats short of a majority, with a rainbow coalition probably comprised of Labour on 271 seats, the SNP on 50 and the Liberal Democrats on 28.

 

[Tredman]

Also interesting to see how the general feeling (see posts above) is still sticking from yesterday morning in that it’s not so bad for the tories, whereas when more results came through during the day it’s clear it’s a total disaster. This always seems to happen and the media lap it up.

 

[Sniffer]

Also interesting to see how the general feeling (see posts above) is still sticking from yesterday morning in that it’s not so bad for the tories, whereas when more results came through during the day it’s clear it’s a total disaster. This always seems to happen and the media lap it up.

The Conservatives lose 1/4 of their seats and it’s painted as that it could have been a lot worse. Labour gains a couple of hundred seats defending a strong performance 4 years ago and the narrative is that they aren’t going to sweep in to power with a result like that. The truth is that a swing of the proportions of Blair in 97 would only be enough to scrape over the line with a 2 seat majority.
A Labour majority was never a realistic possibility after the last election and how voting trends have changed.

 

[leedswolf]

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

So the Daily Express says this “better than expected” result shows bullish Boris is back on track. I mean, what the actual fuck? This was a shoeing and a repeat in a GE would see him lose power as nobody would go into a coalition with him.