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Boris at it again and the contest to replace the lying c***

The fine was for his Birthday Party. It could well mean that he and his other half will end up being issued with multiple fines.
 
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He'll ride it out, and people will get bored, same as for the proroguing of parliament, the lying to the queen, the breaking of the GFA, the breaking of international law, and all the other proven lies in parliament that haven't mattered.
 
Quite likely to be the case. The ministerial code makes him the final arbiter of whether lying matters. And it was written when the general idea was that a pathological liar wouldn't be prime minister.

He will dig in. Cunt.
 
He’ll stay until the elections in May. Hopefully the electorate have more integrity than the bunch of cunts that is the vast majority of Tory MPs and they send an overwhelming message but I won’t hold my breath.
 
Absolute radio silence from the entire cabinet. Hiding. Spineless fucking cowards, led by a spineless coward.

Hopefully they get absolutely pumped in the local elections.
 
If they don't have a shocker in the locals then we may as well all pack up and await permanent Tory rule.

- Prime Minister is literally a criminal
- So is the Chancellor, who is also privy to dubious tax practices and residency arrangements
- Neither of them are doing anything about rampant inflation, wages that are nowhere near keeping pace alongside and energy bills/fuel prices flying through the roof
- Brexit is a shambles, and it only gets worse every few months when temporary carry-over arrangements with the EU end
- Genuine sex case Tory MP, who then gets backed up by another Tory MP
- Even good Governments tend to do badly mid-term, let alone the worst Government ever
- Idiots like Fabricant, Dorries, Bridgen etc etc coming out with incredible amounts of crap, week after week
- Vile Home Secretary with not just evil policies, but failed evil policies
- Literally put the son of an oligarch into the House of Lords despite being told not to
- Breaking any number of manifesto pledges
- Have spent years talking about "levelling up", which they completely made up, and they've done nothing about (nor will they)

Should be an absolute shoeing.
 
It isn’t just the fines. It isn’t just the behaviour that has led to the Prime Minister being issued a fixed penalty notice by the Metropolitan police. It isn’t just the lies told about that behaviour, lies issued with the most sweeping confidence inside and outside the House of Commons. It isn’t just the fines and the indifference to the rules he and his ministers set for everyone else and demanded they follow – on pain of arrest – and the lying about that behaviour and the cavalier assumption that public opinion can go hang. It is all of those things wrapped together.

All of this makes the Prime Minister’s position intolerable and a fellow possessing a greater amount of self-awareness or – to employ an old-fashioned term – honour, would read the room and do the decent thing. That there are ample grounds for doubting this Prime Minister will do the appropriate thing is itself a further reminder of how standards in public life have been corroded.

For it is simply not possible to imagine Theresa May or David Cameron or Gordon Brown or Tony Blair or John Major or Margaret Thatcher carrying on in this fashion. They might each have had their shortcomings and blindspots but none would have presided over – and participated in – a Downing Street social scene of this kind at a time they were placing the rest of the country under significant social restrictions.

The behaviour is bad enough but might have been survivable had the Prime Minister and his allies not treated the public as fools. Do not believe the evidence of your own eyes and ears, they said, for what you see and what you hear is untrue. There were no parties. The rules were followed. These were work events. And if the rules were not followed, well, it was only junior members of the team letting off a little steam in a time of national emergency. The Prime Minister was not present and if he was present he was not involved. Others may have sinned but the Prime Minister, ex officio, cannot have been among them. He was at home.

All nonsense and palpable nonsense at that. The original offences were grave enough but politics and politicians may survive hypocrisy for such are the wages of the enterprise. But the lying – and we may, I think, call it that now – trebles the impact of the original sin. It is that which has occasioned so much public anger and frustration. It is that which requires a sacrifice and throwing a handful of junior operatives to the crown will not suffice.

Doubtless the Prime Minister’s pals will attempt to persuade us that these fixed penalty notices – more than 50 of them! – are of no great import. Nothing more than the cover version of a speeding or parking ticket. This is not the case. When the government imposes extraordinary measures, when it delves deep into everybody’s life, regulating behaviour in ways not seen since the second world war – and in some respects greater than was the case even then – the public is entitled to expect government ministers to respect the government’s own rules as strictly as it enforces them for everyone else.

There ought to be nowhere left for the Prime Minister to hide. Those who will this afternoon and this evening and in the coming days do what they can to provide excuses and cover for a law-breaking Prime Minister should feel a deep shame themselves. They are defending the indefensible and if they cannot appreciate this they lack the character to be in public life themselves.

This is a shameless Prime Minister, of course, and this has always been considered part of Johnson’s rule-breaking, snook-cocking, charm. His chancellor may welcome an opportunity for a quieter life, free from the impertinence of prying eyes, but the Prime Minister cannot be expected to shuffle off the stage willingly. That says enough about him too.

Other objections to insisting that actions must have consequences will not do either. The Prime Minister merits significant praise for the support he has offered Ukraine and the urgency with which he has done so. His trip to Kyiv last week was a powerful reminder to that embattled people that they are not wholly alone. But the Conservative party has changed leaders in times of international crisis before and it may do so again without risking calamity. (This is not just a question of 1940 either; the party toppled Mrs Thatcher even as British troops were preparing to evict Saddam Hussein from Kuwait.)

There is no escaping that this is a very simple matter. The offence was bad, the cover-up worse and the cover-up of the cover-up ridiculous and insulting in equal measure. A Prime Minister need not be popular but he or she must retain some measure of authority. This one no longer does. Time for Conservative MPs to put the national interest first and do what, deep down, many of them must know is the right thing to do. For if not now, in the name of God, when?

That is from the Spectator. Which Boris Johnson used to edit.
 
Who turned the lovely Sarah Jane Mee into an attack dog. Ripping Douglas Ross to pieces on SSN right now.
 
"I don't think at any time he thought he was breaking the law... he thought just like many teachers and nurses who after a very long shift would go back to the staff room and have a quiet drink"

Michael Fabricant there.

Can we go back to days where he was just a joke MP who only ever got in the news when he wanted every house in the UK to have fly the Union flag.

A quiet drink after work is now the same as having a party. Party at mine tonight folks...just be me and my dogs though.
 
"I don't think at any time he thought he was breaking the law... he thought just like many teachers and nurses who after a very long shift would go back to the staff room and have a quiet drink"

Michael Fabricant there.

Can we go back to days where he was just a joke MP who only ever got in the news when he wanted every house in the UK to have fly the Union flag.

A quiet drink after work is now the same as having a party. Party at mine tonight folks...just be me and my dogs though.
That's disgraceful. Nurses and teachers weren't doing that at end of shift at all. Complete fucking bollocks and another lie.
 

1) Brexit isn't "done", and even if it were, it would patently be a steaming pile of horseshit
2) "Getting on with the job". Haven't heard that one for ooh, a fortnight or so. What are you actually doing?
3) Irrelevant if you think he's the right man (spoiler: he isn't). You can't have someone as Prime Minister who's just been found guilty of breaking the law that he (by proxy) wrote
 
Or, more likely, something else atrocious happens in Eastern Ukraine.
He ought to get Dan Snyder's boys onto it (Washington Monkeys or whatever they're calling themselves) they're gonna shine a big brown light all over the NFL and relatively nothing will take place. They'll get Boris out of it!
 
It isn’t just the fines. It isn’t just the behaviour that has led to the Prime Minister being issued a fixed penalty notice by the Metropolitan police. It isn’t just the lies told about that behaviour, lies issued with the most sweeping confidence inside and outside the House of Commons. It isn’t just the fines and the indifference to the rules he and his ministers set for everyone else and demanded they follow – on pain of arrest – and the lying about that behaviour and the cavalier assumption that public opinion can go hang. It is all of those things wrapped together.

All of this makes the Prime Minister’s position intolerable and a fellow possessing a greater amount of self-awareness or – to employ an old-fashioned term – honour, would read the room and do the decent thing. That there are ample grounds for doubting this Prime Minister will do the appropriate thing is itself a further reminder of how standards in public life have been corroded.

For it is simply not possible to imagine Theresa May or David Cameron or Gordon Brown or Tony Blair or John Major or Margaret Thatcher carrying on in this fashion. They might each have had their shortcomings and blindspots but none would have presided over – and participated in – a Downing Street social scene of this kind at a time they were placing the rest of the country under significant social restrictions.

The behaviour is bad enough but might have been survivable had the Prime Minister and his allies not treated the public as fools. Do not believe the evidence of your own eyes and ears, they said, for what you see and what you hear is untrue. There were no parties. The rules were followed. These were work events. And if the rules were not followed, well, it was only junior members of the team letting off a little steam in a time of national emergency. The Prime Minister was not present and if he was present he was not involved. Others may have sinned but the Prime Minister, ex officio, cannot have been among them. He was at home.

All nonsense and palpable nonsense at that. The original offences were grave enough but politics and politicians may survive hypocrisy for such are the wages of the enterprise. But the lying – and we may, I think, call it that now – trebles the impact of the original sin. It is that which has occasioned so much public anger and frustration. It is that which requires a sacrifice and throwing a handful of junior operatives to the crown will not suffice.

Doubtless the Prime Minister’s pals will attempt to persuade us that these fixed penalty notices – more than 50 of them! – are of no great import. Nothing more than the cover version of a speeding or parking ticket. This is not the case. When the government imposes extraordinary measures, when it delves deep into everybody’s life, regulating behaviour in ways not seen since the second world war – and in some respects greater than was the case even then – the public is entitled to expect government ministers to respect the government’s own rules as strictly as it enforces them for everyone else.

There ought to be nowhere left for the Prime Minister to hide. Those who will this afternoon and this evening and in the coming days do what they can to provide excuses and cover for a law-breaking Prime Minister should feel a deep shame themselves. They are defending the indefensible and if they cannot appreciate this they lack the character to be in public life themselves.

This is a shameless Prime Minister, of course, and this has always been considered part of Johnson’s rule-breaking, snook-cocking, charm. His chancellor may welcome an opportunity for a quieter life, free from the impertinence of prying eyes, but the Prime Minister cannot be expected to shuffle off the stage willingly. That says enough about him too.

Other objections to insisting that actions must have consequences will not do either. The Prime Minister merits significant praise for the support he has offered Ukraine and the urgency with which he has done so. His trip to Kyiv last week was a powerful reminder to that embattled people that they are not wholly alone. But the Conservative party has changed leaders in times of international crisis before and it may do so again without risking calamity. (This is not just a question of 1940 either; the party toppled Mrs Thatcher even as British troops were preparing to evict Saddam Hussein from Kuwait.)

There is no escaping that this is a very simple matter. The offence was bad, the cover-up worse and the cover-up of the cover-up ridiculous and insulting in equal measure. A Prime Minister need not be popular but he or she must retain some measure of authority. This one no longer does. Time for Conservative MPs to put the national interest first and do what, deep down, many of them must know is the right thing to do. For if not now, in the name of God, when?

That is from the Spectator. Which Boris Johnson used to edit.
Bloody hell Will, I thought you'd written that! I thought Will's come on a bit!
 
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