Beer

[Deutsch Wolf]

Just make it 500ml. Makes sense since that's the closest measure that cans/bottles are sold in.

It's generally either 0,4l or 0,5l in Northern Germany

Tbh you barely notice after a while.

 

[sycophantia]

Good people of Britain, panic!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gl737zr79o.amp

Bloody daft idea, from experience back in the day, starting drinking early so start on halves, end up drinking more......or maybe thats just me!

 

[Jack Regan]

Very rarely drinking in pubs any more, and in craft beer bars when I am out means its very rare I ever drink a pint these days. Most of the craft beer I drink is over 6% so you don't really need a pint of it anyway, and I'm likely to try different ones so two thirds is usually enough.

 

[The Bear]

Bloody daft idea, from experience back in the day, starting drinking early so start on halves, end up drinking more......or maybe thats just me!

Now getting to the bar's gonna be trouble
So the Marlons'll have to be doubles
Then you drink doubles
The same speed you drink singles

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Main issue I foresee is they’d charge close to pint prices, maybe not initially but over time they’ll creep up.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I do occasionally have a pint here, but most of the time it's a schooner as the beer tends to stay cold to the bottom of the drink (unless you drink at LJ speed).

For the LJ's of this world there is a smaller measure - the pot - which is about 280ml, so basically a swig. Schooner is 425ml or thereabouts.

 

[leedswolf]

I do occasionally have a pint here, but most of the time it's a schooner as the beer tends to stay cold to the bottom of the drink (unless you drink at LJ speed).

For the LJ's of this world there is a smaller measure - the pot - which is about 280ml, so basically a swig. Schooner is 425ml or thereabouts.

I believe that schooners became more popular in Aus during WW2 with the introduction of rationing and increased duty (along with lisenced premises requiring to shut at 6:00pm). The 'pot' is also known as a 'midi' in NSW. 285ml is a 'schooner' in SA. Equates to approx 1/2 an Imperial pint if you're JRM.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I think schooners are 285 in WA as well, but I would need to check that with a visit to Perth which is a touch unlikely at this time!

 

[EpsomWolf]

Could be one for the ‘annoy’ thread but am becoming increasingly fed up with poor quality/badly kept cask/real ale. Yes I know you can taste it beforehand or take it back to swap it, but it’s becoming such a disappointing faff that unless I’m in a pub I know and can trust I’ll just not bother. With all the interesting IPAs and craft beers nailing it first time every time it’s not as though there isn’t a quality alternative either.

Catalyst is probably heading into London a couple of times a week and the ale is generally fucking terrible and am beginning to feel just can’t be arsed trying to plot a pathway to a decent pint. You become a bit of a pain too if others are quite content in a nice pub with a wine or an IPA and you’re grumbling about the only option being an £7-8 London Pride on the turn and wondering whether to suggest trying the boozer down the road.

Did make me think about the pressure cask is under again as unlike the 70’s and 80’s the alternatives are no longer terrible. Going to side-step the issue altogether tonight and head to a Belgian beer pub which will be great, but there’s a sadness at the driver behind that. Still love nothing more than a top notch pint of real ale, but the lottery of being served a duff one and the desirability of the alternatives are really putting that to the test.

 

[sycophantia]

Could be one for the ‘annoy’ thread but am becoming increasingly fed up with poor quality/badly kept cask/real ale. Yes I know you can taste it beforehand or take it back to swap it, but it’s becoming such a disappointing faff that unless I’m in a pub I know and can trust I’ll just not bother. With all the interesting IPAs and craft beers nailing it first time every time it’s not as though there isn’t a quality alternative either.

Catalyst is probably heading into London a couple of times a week and the ale is generally fucking terrible and beginning to feel just can’t be arsed trying to plot a pathway to a decent pint. You become a bit of a pain too if others are quite content in a nice pub with a wine or an IPA and you’re grumbling about the only option being an £7-8 London Pride on the turn and wondering whether to suggest trying the boozer down the road.

Did make me think about the pressure cask is under again as unlike the 70’s and 80’s the alternatives are no longer terrible. Going to side-step the issue altogether tonight and head to a Belgian beer pub which will be great, but there’s a sadness at the driver behind that. Still love nothing more than a top notch pint of real ale, but the lottery of being served a duff one and the desirability of the alternatives are really putting that to the test.

Landlord at my local keeps a decent pint of the various ales. Most of them are 'guest' ales so they aren't in stock very long, most of them change weekly which I think is half the battle.
Still occasionally get one I'm not keen on, very I have to take one back, generally if the landlord is pulling it he notices before I even taste it so rarely an issue.

 

[BillyDee]

The biggest issue is turnover, and as you've mentioned, there are now more viable alternatives which means casks can take longer to sell.
As a real ale enthusiast, and someone who has won multiple CAMRA awards, I now rarely drink it if I'm out unless I'm sure I can trust it. Which is a shame.

 

[leedswolf]

The biggest issue is turnover, and as you've mentioned, there are now more viable alternatives which means casks can take longer to sell.
As a real ale enthusiast, and someone who has won multiple CAMRA awards, I now rarely drink it if I'm out unless I'm sure I can trust it. Which is a shame.

I would add to that. Licencees are nowadays selected on their credit ratings and not their ability. Before the reduction of brewery owned pubs, landlords trained at the breweries and learned cellar craft amongst other skills.

 

[SSB]

The biggest issue is turnover, and as you've mentioned, there are now more viable alternatives which means casks can take longer to sell.
As a real ale enthusiast, and someone who has won multiple CAMRA awards, I now rarely drink it if I'm out unless I'm sure I can trust it. Which is a shame.

One of my local pubs took cask off, but brings it back sporadically. I tend to check out the craft option in the fridges if a pub has them and I don't fancy what's on the bar.

 

[machin05]

@leedswolf - In Leeds with the family on Saturday, Phil. Got any pub recommendations for a group of around 10?

 

[leedswolf]

Templar (typical traditional town pub with real ale)
Whitelocks/Turk's Head (oldest licensed premises in leeds, mix of ales, craft and good food)
NMBCo Refectory
Cross Keys (decent selection of ales and food)
Archies (contemporary bar with ales and foid)
Head of Steam (x2)
Tapped (mix of cask and keg, decent pizzas)
Grove Inn

 

[machin05]

Marvellous, cheers sir

 

[EpsomWolf]

Westmalle Dubbel, Delirium Tremens, Troubadour Magma. Lovely.

 

[Boozad]

I had a Troubadour Magma in the first ever craft box I ordered and it was way too much for me. I’d probably love it now.

 

[Jack Regan]

I had a Troubadour Magma in the first ever craft box I ordered and it was way too much for me. I’d probably love it now.

Had a Magma on tap in Brugge last week, always been one of my favourites.

Westmalle Dubbel, Delirium Tremens, Troubadour Magma. Lovely.

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The Belgian beer snob in me with those not being in the right glasses would really annoy me (I know it's a sampling set), but otherwise three good choices there.

 

[Jolemai]

Banks's Brewery in Wolverhampton set to close in its 150th year

A proposal to close the site, which employs 97, is announced as part of a company restructure.

www.bbc.co.uk