UEFA Nations League & Euro 2020 Qualification

[Tony Towner]

Scotland won't get through, but if they do apparently they will be drawn in the same Group as England because of Hampden being used as a venue

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Think Portugal could well be third seeds!

France and Croatia are definitely in Pot 2 as well.

Spain Croatia Portugal Wales would be somewhat unpleasant from my point of view!

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Pot 1
Belgium
Italy (hosts, Group A)
England (hosts, Group D)
Germany (hosts, Group F)
Spain (hosts, Group E)
Ukraine

Pot 2
France
Poland
Switzerland
Croatia
Netherlands (hosts, Group C)
Russia (hosts, Group B)

Pot 3
Portugal
Turkey
Denmark (hosts, Group B)
Austria
Sweden
Czech Republic

Pot 4
Wales
Finland
Winner play-off Path A
Winner play-off Path B
Winner play-off Path C
Winner play-off Path D

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

So from Pot 2 England can only get one of France, Croatia, Poland and Switzerland. You would definitely have a preference there for Poland or Switzerland!

If Scotland qualify England automatically get them because Hampden and Wembley are paired venues, but if not Pot 4 is a completely open draw.

Pot 3 England can get everyone bar Denmark. Portugal are DEFINITELY to be avoided, but Sweden and Turkey are decent too.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

It's this bollocks pan-hosting that has messed everything up. Dreadful idea, should have been patched as soon as Platini was bombed out of office, it was his stupid plan. Plenty of time to sort out a host, in fact if you cancelled it now, refunded all the tickets and put it up for tender it'd be fine.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

For Wales, the draw is entirely open.

Ukraine, Switzerland, Denmark please. (which isn't possible because of paired hosting between Russia and Denmark - so sub in Austria for Denmark)

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Fucking hell

You can get Italy, France, Portugal, Wales. That's fucking terrifying.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

England
Switzerland
Austria
Finland

Ideally.

Don't care too much though, we have to back ourselves.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Fucking hell

You can get Italy, France, Portugal, Wales. That's fucking terrifying.

Remember though mate that as it's a stupid 24 team tournament (not going to repeat my endless ranting about it from four years ago but they don't work!) you can quite conceivably go through in 3rd place with three draws. You don't even necessarily need to beat a big gun.

Of course we know what kind of football that promotes...

 

[James]

Worst case scenario
England
France
Portugal
Wales

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Remember though mate that as it's a stupid 24 team tournament (not going to repeat my endless ranting about it from four years ago but they don't work!) you can quite conceivably go through in 3rd place with three draws. You don't even necessarily need to beat a big gun.

Of course we know what kind of football that promotes...

I totally fucking agree. Letting 'best' third place teams into a final sixteen promotes absolute negative bollocks.

Don't even get me started on the shit second phase in World Cup 1982. Bar the utter brilliance of Italy v Brazil it was all suddenly about not losing. Shite.

James is right (*faints*). I think Wales are the pot four team that everyone will want to avoid. At least, until Serbia make it, as they can be pretty fucking decent.

 

[Parkins left foot]

Pot 1
Belgium
Italy (hosts, Group A)
England (hosts, Group D)
Germany (hosts, Group F)
Spain (hosts, Group E)
Ukraine

Pot 2
France
Poland
Switzerland
Croatia
Netherlands (hosts, Group C)
Russia (hosts, Group B)

Pot 3
Portugal
Turkey
Denmark (hosts, Group B)
Austria
Sweden
Czech Republic

Pot 4
Wales
Finland
Winner play-off Path A
Winner play-off Path B
Winner play-off Path C
Winner play-off Path D

Can create some horrifying Groups out of that - reality is that (unless you have walked under a dozen ladders on the way in) unlikely to get all 3 of the perceived best team out of the other pots anymore than you will get what you see as the easiest draw from each.

Just got to deal with what we get.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Pot 1
Belgium
Italy (hosts, Group A)
England (hosts, Group D)
Germany (hosts, Group F)
Spain (hosts, Group E)
Ukraine

Pot 2
France
Poland
Switzerland
Croatia
Netherlands (hosts, Group C)
Russia (hosts, Group B)

Pot 3
Portugal
Turkey
Denmark (hosts, Group B)
Austria
Sweden
Czech Republic

Pot 4
Wales
Finland
Winner play-off Path A
Winner play-off Path B
Winner play-off Path C
Winner play-off Path D

THE PERFECT DRAW

Hungary, Republic of Ireland, Scotland and Kosovo qualify

Group A : ITALY, FRANCE, PORTUGAL, KOSOVO
Group B : BELGIUM, RUSSIA, DENMARK, HUNGARY
Group C : UKRAINE, NETHERLANDS, TURKEY, REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Group D : ENGLAND, SWITZERLAND, AUSTRIA, SCOTLAND
Group E : SPAIN, POLAND, SWEDEN, WALES
Group F : GERMANY, CROATIA, CZECH REPUBLIC, FINLAND

 

[YoungWolf]

By the way, our team in the final game before Euro 2016:

----------------------Ikeme---------------------

Iorfa----------Batth-----------Hause----------Doherty

Wallace-------Coady----------Price-----------Saville

----------------------Henry--------------------------

----------------------Mason------------------------------

Fucking hell !

 

[The Bear]

So how come Scotland are in our group, and not in say, Belgium's?

I know about the two games at home rule, but why our group and not another?

 

[Tony Towner]

So how come Scotland are in our group, and not in say, Belgium's?

I know about the two games at home rule, but why our group and not another?

Because the Group that England will be in had already had Hampden allocated as the ground which will share those group games, which makes sense to be fair

 

[The Bear]

Cheers Tony.

I'm glad tbh. We'll annihilate them.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

You wont need to. No way they will qualify

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Here we go.

It's on BBC Two. Don't bother casting it, the BBC have totally fucked up and you get their crap version of Grand Designs instead.

 

[Tredman]

Fuck me this is complicated.