The Royals

[pavlosmacwolf]

And I have my job and if that offers me the opportunity to be with the kids instead of working I am taking it. (Although they are now 28 and 26 so might not be that impressed with my gesture)

I am far from a fan of the Royal Family but just seems a stretch to have a pop at "man takes time off to be at home with his kids"

Especially when the er indoors has just come home from a fortnight in hospital after a bit of cutting and splicing.

 

[Johnny75]

Alright Camilla calm down.

He's a multi multi millionaire with literally hundreds of staff looking after him. Royal calendars aren't nearly as busy as they try to make out- he'll have plenty of time with his kids. A lot more most of his subjects do that's for sure.

His dad has access to the best health care possible at a time when people are literally dying because of our underfunded NHS.

This is pretty appalling stuff and ignores the human element.

Why is it hard left socialists have no empathy?

 

[ROVERT47]

I’ve always been pretty comfortable with having a Monarchy, what’s the alternative, President Johnson, no thanks.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Why do you need a head of state?

 

[ROVERT47]

Why do you need a head of state?

Ain't took you long to become an Aussie

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I think you will find my disdain for all things family Windsor rather predates my emigration.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I am making a point in some seriousness though. In the absence of a royal under our system (unlike our dear American friends) running the joint would still be the role of the prime minister and government.

Any president or suchlike would be a ceremonial banquet hoster. Not sure that would be entirely necessary.

The French have both roles but the prime minister is below the president in their system. If we were suddenly sans royals it would be a clean slate and there wouldn’t really be a need to create a head of state role.

 

[Templeton Peck]

I’ve always been pretty comfortable with having a Monarchy, what’s the alternative, President Johnson, no thanks.

Such a tired and lazy argument. Used to be President Thatcher. Then Blair. Like the only possible alternative to the Windsors is an extremely unpopular ex PM.

 

[Mel Evo]

I hear Clarkson and Piers Morgan are in the running too.

There is something in the argument that a complete oddity who understands that, at some level, they and their kids are enjoying the good life purely on goodwill is likely to be more responsible than a complete maniac empowered by the express will of the people, people who demonstrate time and again their willingness to support incredibly stupid people and policies. I know that’s all pretty depressing and undemocratic.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

The only non ceremonial role of the monarch these days is they in theory can refuse to give assent to legislation. Not saying this is rare, but I think the last one to do so ended up quite a bit shorter.

 

[Tony Towner]

Whether you support them or you don't, in the hypothetical scenario where you get rid of them however defined, I don't see why they'd need to be replaced by anything. Their role is pretty much ceremonial these days so all you'd need is to pass Acts through Parliament which tighten up loose ends legally

 

[Johnny75]

This has somehow gone from a bloke caring for his wife and kids and having a cancer diagnosis for his father to an anti-monarchy thread ..again

Pretty shameful stuff really.

 

[ROVERT47]

Such a tired and lazy argument. Used to be President Thatcher. Then Blair. Like the only possible alternative to the Windsors is an extremely unpopular ex PM.

President Attenborough then.

 

[Templeton Peck]

President Attenborough then.

President Bull I was thinking.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

This has somehow gone from a bloke caring for his wife and kids and having a cancer diagnosis for his father to an anti-monarchy thread ..again

Pretty shameful stuff really.

You are constantly horrible and patronising to people on this forum, with no regard for how that may effect them.

So forgive me for finding you being self righteous on this topic more than a little ironic.

 

[Johnny75]

You are constantly horrible and patronising to people on this forum, with no regard for how that may effect them.

So forgive me for finding you being self righteous on this topic more than a little ironic.

Projection and deflection.

Nice.

 

[Wellen Wolf]

Whether you support them or you don't, in the hypothetical scenario where you get rid of them however defined, I don't see why they'd need to be replaced by anything. Their role is pretty much ceremonial these days so all you'd need is to pass Acts through Parliament which tighten up loose ends legally

Not quite so ceremonial as they would have us believe.... 'While the website of the royal family describes consent as "a long established convention", The Guardian newspaper reported in February 2021 that memos had been found in the National Archives revealing that the advance notice of forthcoming bills allows the monarch to lobby for legislative changes without actual consent being invoked. The documents were reviewed by Thomas Adams, a specialist in constitutional law at Oxford University, who said they revealed "the kind of influence over legislation that lobbyists would only dream of", adding that the existence of the consent procedure appeared to have given the monarch "substantial influence" over draft laws that could affect her. As of 2021, over 1000 bills had been submitted to the Queen or Prince Charles for Queen's or Prince's Consent.[31] More than 50,000 people had, by 28 February 2021, signed a petition requesting a parliamentary inquiry into the convention of Queen's Consent.[32] Buckingham Palace responded to The Guardian, stating that consent was always granted when requested and that legislation was never blocked.[24]' Wikipedia on King's Consent.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

This has somehow gone from a bloke caring for his wife and kids and having a cancer diagnosis for his father to an anti-monarchy thread ..again

Pretty shameful stuff really.

I haven’t mentioned any of that bar saying I am not a fan. I have simply said I don’t think the head of state role would need to be replaced in a hypothetical situation.

I don’t like being told that is shameful

 

[leedswolf]

Ain't took you long to become an Aussie

Nah, he hasn't yet, Aussies just bang on how hot it is...

 

[Keef]

When he posts a selfie wearing the hat with corks on, shirt with no sleeves, short shorts, the white stripe on his nose holding a fosters, that’s when we’ll know he’s gone full native