The Manager Sacked/Hired Thread 2023/24

[Alan]

Ha, I was at that one. Saw Razak in the flesh (no he didn’t look he would be better than Bakary)

I can't believe you would attack me like this

 

[YoungWolf]

I meant to @ you actually!!

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Yeah he was. His injury really seemed to derail us at the time too.

Atrocious challenge by Jonny Williams

 

[Law's Bus]

All of this Southgate stuff is deeply hilarious to those of us that aren't English.

In reality, the furthest any nation can "expect" to get in a tournament is the quarter-finals. Getting beyond that stage is a combination of the luck of the draw, having your players perform on the day and not having a traditionally "smaller" nation having a golden generation or a team playing above themselves - and as we've recently seen in a quarter final ourselves, that's far from guaranteed.

Getting through the quarters and into the semis and beyond is a good result, no matter whether you're England, Brazil, France, Germany, Argentina, Italy or so on.

It's like for us smaller nations, the realistic expectation is to make a good go of qualifying, and a great result is qualifying.

Southgate has achieved and bettered the realistic expections, perhaps despite his limitations, but as an international manager he's been overall a decent success for England. Probably getting near his sell-by date in the job, but that's an entirely different discussion.

 

[Tony Towner]

All of this Southgate stuff is deeply hilarious to those of us that aren't English.

In reality, the furthest any nation can "expect" to get in a tournament is the quarter-finals. Getting beyond that stage is a combination of the luck of the draw, having your players perform on the day and not having a traditionally "smaller" nation having a golden generation or a team playing above themselves - and as we've recently seen in a quarter final ourselves, that's far from guaranteed.

Getting through the quarters and into the semis and beyond is a good result, no matter whether you're England, Brazil, France, Germany, Argentina, Italy or so on.

It's like for us smaller nations, the realistic expectation is to make a good go of qualifying, and a great result is qualifying.

Southgate has achieved and bettered the realistic expections, perhaps despite his limitations, but as an international manager he's been overall a decent success for England. Probably getting near his sell-by date in the job, but that's an entirely different discussion.

Yet every single other nation you mention has won a major tournament this century. Which is more an overall observation than a Southgate one

 

[KiwiWolf61]

In 66, Brazil.were touted as the best ( having won in 58 and 62), but failed to get out of the group stage IIRC.

Just before my time but Brazil always seem to be favourites (or near enough) for every World Cup.

I recall my Dad telling me that he always thought they'd struggle as the team was ageing, and, of course, Pele was brutalised in the games against Hungary and Portugal.

 

[Donegal Wolf]

Had an interesting conversation last night to a man who earlier in the day had been talking to someone on the FAI executive board.

FAI thought they had Carsley in the bag until FA threw him a hook that if Southgate leaves he will be on a very short shortlist for England.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Carsley has a pretty short CV for the England job. Mind you so did Southgate when pintsofwine decided to out himself as a corrupt bastard.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Carsley has a pretty short CV for the England job. Mind you so did Southgate when pintsofwine decided to out himself as a corrupt bastard.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Carsley got it, it might focus the minds of folk who continually slag Southgate off!

Carsley aside the (realistic) options aren't great at all.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Howe and Potter I guess. Neither have vast appeal.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Howe and Potter I guess. Neither have vast appeal.

They don't.

Might be a good time for Howe to leave Newcastle, although he probably doesn't see it that way.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

He won’t have a choice if they finish outside Europe.

 

[ROVERT47]

The Saudi’s are gonna be looking for someone with a bit of European clout, not sure if Mourinho still has it but wouldn’t be surprised to see him end up there.

 

[Kenny]

Seems Forest approached Sarri to replace Nuno the other week.

 

[lemonjelly]

Cos they're not happy with him? Or he's unhappy with their finances?

 

[Tony Towner]

Because it's made up in Italy and picked up by the Mail

 

[BillyDee]

Xabi Alonso confirms he will stay at Leverkusen next season.

 

[Alan]

Xabi Alonso confirms he will stay at Leverkusen next season.

Of two minds. Coup for Leverkusen but wish he was on my TV more often.

 

[BillyDee]

O'Neil tipped to replace Klopp at Liverpool after ruling out Man Utd move

Liverpool are continuing to search for Jurgen Klopp's successor and now Wolves boss Gary O'Neil has had his name thrown in the mix, having impressed in difficult circumstances

www.mirror.co.uk

I wish I got paid to write bullshit.

 

[Kenny]

Wow where did that link come from!!



Oh, never mind