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Societal collapse?

Definitely a rise in racist graffiti round Birmingham. Seeing badly painted red crosses about too.
That said all these flags these so called patriots bought are obviously cheap shite. All looking frayed and bedraggled now. Lazy knuckle dragging shysters not as respectful of the flag to do anything other than leave them as they are though.
 
lemonjelly said:
Definitely a rise in racist graffiti round Birmingham. Seeing badly painted red crosses about too.
That said all these flags these so called patriots bought are obviously cheap shite. All looking frayed and bedraggled now. Lazy knuckle dragging shysters not as respectful of the flag to do anything other than leave them as they are though.
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Probably made in China and paid for by covert dirty money eg from Russia sent via somewhere like Cyprus OR from the USA, both routes via offshore accounts.
 
Wellen Wolf said:
Probably made in China and paid for by covert dirty money eg from Russia sent via somewhere like Cyprus OR from the USA, both routes via offshore accounts.
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Made in China or possibly Pakistan. Probably the former.
You can buy any flags you want in bulk (including Israeli) from one of my suppliers in London, who are Pakistanis.
Businessmen.
 
It does beggar belief that someone can be in such a rage, lose their temper to such a level because they can't get to where they want to, that they think the most reasonable course of action is to deliberately drive at, run over, and trap people beneath their car.
 
basher said:
It does beggar belief that someone can be in such a rage, lose their temper to such a level because they can't get to where they want to, that they think the most reasonable course of action is to deliberately drive at, run over, and trap people beneath their car.
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He's a nutter, one of his previous sentences was for biting a sailors ear off. Just needs putting down.
 
Where are we going with this one?

www.bbc.co.uk

Two arrested after police say they will act against intifada chants

The Metropolitan and Greater Manchester forces earlier said they would make arrests over "globalise the intifada" chants.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

Hot on the heels of the proscribing of PA and everything that goes with that, plus of course where this all sits within the free speech debate. Factor in the huge early successes from the left with cancel culture turning full circle and now biting both sides firmly on the arse too. The ridiculous weaponisation of feelings manifesting in the absolute absurdity of non-crime hate speech and now the authorities don’t know whether to stick or twist.

Facial recognition cameras, monitoring of social media and people getting arrested for uncomfortable truths. The left and right now both using the same tools and complain of the same control whenever it suits them. Someone was criticised on here for suggesting we’re increasingly like North Korea. We might be some way off but relative to where we were there are parallels and it’s difficult to argue we should not be concerned about the trajectory.

FWIW I think the authorities are in an impossible position between a rock and a hard place. That said, the reality of what ‘Globalise the intifada’ really means and it’s brushed-under-the-carpet threat suddenly playing out in the uncomfortable reality of a seemingly relentless wave of appalling attacks, means the status quo isn’t working.

I don’t know if it’s the right move but all sides only seem to want their voices heard and to utterly silence the other. The police look like they’re going to silence both. Worrying times but I’d be interested to hear where others think all this is ultimately taking us.
 
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EpsomWolf said:
Where are we going with this one?

www.bbc.co.uk

Two arrested after police say they will act against intifada chants

The Metropolitan and Greater Manchester forces earlier said they would make arrests over "globalise the intifada" chants.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

Hot on the heels of the proscribing of PA and everything that goes with that, plus of course where this all sits within the free speech debate. Factor in the huge early successes from the left with cancel culture turning full circle and now biting both sides firmly on the arse too. The ridiculous weaponisation of feelings manifesting in the absolute absurdity of non-crime hate speech and now the authorities don’t know whether to stick or twist.

Facial recognition cameras, monitoring of social media and people getting arrested for uncomfortable truths. The left and right now both using the same tools and complain of the same control whenever it suits them. Someone was criticised on here for suggesting we’re increasingly like North Korea. We might be some way off but relative to where we were there are parallels and it’s difficult to argue we should not be concerned about the trajectory.

FWIW I think the authorities are in an impossible position between a rock and a hard place. That said, the reality of what ‘Globalise the intifada’ really means and it’s brushed-under-the-carpet threat suddenly playing out in the uncomfortable reality of a seemingly relentless wave of appalling attacks, means the status quo isn’t working.

I don’t know if it’s the right move but all sides only seem to want their voices heard and to utterly silence the other. The police look like they’re going to silence both. Worrying times but I’d be interested to hear where others think all this is ultimately taking us.
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It's setting things up very nicely for a Farage govt.
 
www.theguardian.com

What happened next: Maggots, rats and growing despair – a year of the Birmingham bin strike

Action began in January, before an all-out strike in March. For locals, the flytipping, vermin, maggots and mess are taking a huge environmental and emotional toll
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Following on from LJ’s post of the above in the ‘Sad’ thread, where do we sit on this one?

Personally find it interesting and sad in equal measure, particularly as we’re all inclined to instinctively blame the ‘other side’, but this time there’s a Labour government, a Labour council, the unions subsidising the strikers and everyone at face value seemingly having a point and finger pointing somewhat uncomfortable.

Solutions have to be found but appear as far away as ever. Meanwhile Reform sit in the background licking their lips.

How does this get, or how do you think it should be resolved?
 
EpsomWolf said:
www.theguardian.com

What happened next: Maggots, rats and growing despair – a year of the Birmingham bin strike

Action began in January, before an all-out strike in March. For locals, the flytipping, vermin, maggots and mess are taking a huge environmental and emotional toll
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Following on from LJ’s post of the above in the ‘Sad’ thread, where do we sit on this one?

Personally find it interesting and sad in equal measure, particularly as we’re all inclined to instinctively blame the ‘other side’, but this time there’s a Labour government, a Labour council, the unions subsidising the strikers and everyone at face value seemingly having a point and finger pointing somewhat uncomfortable.

Solutions have to be found but appear as far away as ever. Meanwhile Reform sit in the background licking their lips.

How does this get, or how do you think it should be resolved?
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How I think it should be resolved.

HMO licences have a waste levy applied, as HMO's generate vastly more waste than traditional properties.

2000 licensed HMO's in Birmingham, charge them all £520 a year and you make 1.06m.

The £6000 the 170 workers are losing comes to 1.04m.

Do a sliding scale based on number of bedrooms a landlord has.

Im going to go out on a limb and assume you disagree ;)
 
Derby Wolf said:
How I think it should be resolved.

HMO licences have a waste levy applied, as HMO's generate vastly more waste than traditional properties.

2000 licensed HMO's in Birmingham, charge them all £520 a year and you make 1.06m.

The £6000 the 170 workers are losing comes to 1.04m.

Do a sliding scale based on number of bedrooms a landlord has.

Im going to go out on a limb and assume you disagree ;)
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Thanks for the reply.

I think that’s an excellent suggestion btw. There does need to be a conversation about waste generation/net use of public services per HOUSEHOLD but you are getting dangerously close to the reasons the poll tax was introduced in the first place

I really like the HMO levy concept, but what it really means is the individual tenants will be paying their share of the property’s higher overall public services usage through their rent, effectively a poll tax on those people, while individuals within large families with similarly large draws on public services living in ordinary family-owned houses paying f-all, with the reality being everyone else has to subsidise that larger usage too.

With higher value houses already paying more regardless of their usage, and an HMO levy forcing the individuals to contribute their fair share, the big loophole and subsequent beneficiaries would be those in very large households with minimal contribution and no correlation between usage and contribution whatsoever.

That’s all quite sensitive ground but really needs addressing and the failing half-arsed system we’ve had for over 30 years needs kicking into the long grass too.
 
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