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Scottish Politics

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This will end up as a non event (unless most of the committee hearing it are part of the 'conspiricy')

Salmond will come out not being pilloried, but not fully proving his case and Sturgeon will get the lightest slap on the wrist for minor misdemeanors, but won't be a reason to resign.

All go home as there's nothing to see here!
 
Looks like the case will bring Sturgeon down as MSPs rule that she misled the Scottish parliament.
 
Possibly not, as she did so 'accidentally'. Only deliberately misleading the parliament would require a resignation?
 
lemonjelly said:
the fact it is the conservatives trying to make the argument Sturgeon should resign leaves a really bad taste in the mouth.
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Why? It's the game of politics and a 1 party state in Scotland hopefully will end after this as it isn't healthy. The 4 SNP members of the committee all found that she didn't mislead parliament and that's just as dangerous as all the Tory's finding she did (the evidence is stacked against her.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
Because the actual Prime Minister regularly misleads Parliament. And he illegally closed it down after lying to the Head of State.
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That's just whataboutery.

He's a cunt and we know he is and should be held to account in the same way.
 
In the context of lemonjelly’s post it is not whataboutery if the point he is making is pointing at the hypocrisy of the Conservative Party which I am pretty sure is exactly the point he is making. Whataboutery is pointing out that Johnson should be held to account too which ignores the point of the original post.
 
The conservative party has ministers serving currently who broke the ministerial code, yet rejected calls for resignations.
If that is their position, then they should clarify why sturgeon should resign, but not their ministers. As the position can't be purely down to the breaking of the ministerial code. As TSB states, it is the hypocrisy, though sadly that isn't a surprise to see.
This is all in addition to the repeated actions/inactions and improprieties of johnson himself. Refusal to make corrections, lying to the queen, etc etc...
 
Starmer saying Sturgeon has to resign after refusing to say Johnson, Williamson, Hancock, Patel, etc have to resign is extraordinary.
 
www.theguardian.com

Kate Forbes’ religious beliefs could stall her bid to succeed Sturgeon

Despite her rise through Scotland’s political ranks, her views on abortion and same-sex marriage could be problematic for the SNP
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

If they appoint a religious nut then that's an easy road back in for Scottish Labour. Outside of Northern Ireland you cannot have people like that leading a political party in the UK, whatever their beliefs. People don't buy into it, it actively pushes them away.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
www.theguardian.com

Kate Forbes’ religious beliefs could stall her bid to succeed Sturgeon

Despite her rise through Scotland’s political ranks, her views on abortion and same-sex marriage could be problematic for the SNP
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

If they appoint a religious nut then that's an easy road back in for Scottish Labour. Outside of Northern Ireland you cannot have people like that leading a political party in the UK, whatever their beliefs. People don't buy into it, it actively pushes them away.
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She needs to join the Tories. Absolute shoe in when Sunak goes.
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1626562794857324545

Labour already pulling closer even before Sturgeon said she was away. There genuinely is a bit of a vacuum to replace her, even the ones without insane religious views look like a major downgrade.

I'm not anti-SNP but I'm comfortable with them losing 40-50% of their seats to Labour, that would be very handy.

Also could a mod please change the thread title to something a bit more generic about Scotland, as Salmond has long since been an irrelevance. Politics McPoliticsface, or something less lame.
 
The religious nut now says having children outside of marriage is wrong.

I somehow doubt she's going to connect much with the electorate. Definitely doesn't have Leigh Griffiths' vote anyway.
 
And she has come out against gay marriage. Losing support hand over fist.
 
I've got half a degree of sympathy with her in that she's clearly caveating a lot of this stuff with 'how I would run my life under my faith, not as a policy maker and not a belief to be foisted on others' and that bit's not cutting through. Like in the political world of whipping, collective responsibility, and not to mention bribery and corruption, MPs vote for shit they neither like nor believe in all the time, but doing so with reasons of faith seems nutty.

Don't get me wrong, I personally, and strongly, disagree with her on these points. Tim Fallon was talking about it on LBC the other day, explaining that he has voted for things that go against his faith because of either party line, politics, or just plain old 'just because I believe something shouldn't happen doesn't mean I want to (or will, I guess) make it illegal.

That's aside from the point that I find it very difficult to take relegious people remotely seriously. Like how can you be intelligent and capable of critical thinking if you believe in these fairy tales and teachings from millenia ago
 
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