REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

[MARKakaJIM]

No one has even tried to answer my question yet. Why did Tim Farron choose to live in the Lake District ? Why does he and others like him, choose to live in an all-white area ? Sounds like do as I say, not as I do. There are plenty more like him and there are a few on here too.

You don't need any house buying advice from me MARKakaJIM. If you were moving to Birmingham I just know you would have Sparkbrook as your number one choice wouldn't you ?

What difference does it make where he lives? I imagine majority of people would opt to live in a beautiful part of the world, such as the lake district, given the opportunity but there are often other factors at play which restrict that. Why are you trying to suggest that someone's attitude towards immigration should have an impact on where they choose to live?

Me personally, I wouldn't fancy Sparkbrook, I don't have great knowledge of the area but the couple times I've been through there the traffic has been fucking awful, I wouldn't fancy subjecting myself to that very often so unless I could do almost all of my business on foot that'd be a massive obstacle to me every considering to live there.

At the moment I live in what I'd consider to be a very typical working class Black Country town, built on industry that's largely gone it's now a bit of a nothing place. My early years were spent in an probably 1950's semi where I think every other house in the street was occupied by a white family, we moved to a much newer estate when I was about 6 and it's residents are much more diverse but it's certainly a much nicer area than where we started, bound by a park and leisure facilities rather than wasteland and a busy road. Moving to a nicer area increased our integration with immigrants, though I'd assume most if not all are probably at least 2nd generation.

I'm currently in the process of moving again, this time I'll be moving to a much greener setting than where I curretly preside and with a much less diverse population too, does that make me a hypocrite for walking away from the immigrant population that I have no issue with? Does it make me some middle class wannabe? Does it make me racist? Personally none of those things even entered my mind, I'm more bothered about cutting down the 100 mile round trip I do to work everyday and settling down to start a life with my partner in a property we both love and hopefully stay in for years to come. Should I have looked elsewhere to make sure I was living in a more diverse area too?

 

[visage]

Well I know that people like you would never move to any of those areas by choice. Whereas I've been living in one of those areas most of my life. I'm saying it was ok up until Freedom of Movement, where the brief was 'forget the infrastructure and the effect it will have on working class estates, just open the doors and if anyone wants to come in, let them in and it won't be our problem, it will be a a problem for the working class and we don't give a shit about them anyway".

People like me? Non racists, you mean?

 

[machin05]

"Yay" ? Shouldn't stupid white girls be on the Justin Bieber forum ?

Who said I was white...?

 

[Stan Hullis]

What difference does it make where he lives? I imagine majority of people would opt to live in a beautiful part of the world, such as the lake district, given the opportunity but there are often other factors at play which restrict that. Why are you trying to suggest that someone's attitude towards immigration should have an impact on where they choose to live?

Me personally, I wouldn't fancy Sparkbrook, I don't have great knowledge of the area but the couple times I've been through there the traffic has been fucking awful, I wouldn't fancy subjecting myself to that very often so unless I could do almost all of my business on foot that'd be a massive obstacle to me every considering to live there.

At the moment I live in what I'd consider to be a very typical working class Black Country town, built on industry that's largely gone it's now a bit of a nothing place. My early years were spent in an probably 1950's semi where I think every other house in the street was occupied by a white family, we moved to a much newer estate when I was about 6 and it's residents are much more diverse but it's certainly a much nicer area than where we started, bound by a park and leisure facilities rather than wasteland and a busy road. Moving to a nicer area increased our integration with immigrants, though I'd assume most if not all are probably at least 2nd generation.

I'm currently in the process of moving again, this time I'll be moving to a much greener setting than where I curretly preside and with a much less diverse population too, does that make me a hypocrite for walking away from the immigrant population that I have no issue with? Does it make me some middle class wannabe? Does it make me racist? Personally none of those things even entered my mind, I'm more bothered about cutting down the 100 mile round trip I do to work everyday and settling down to start a life with my partner in a property we both love and hopefully stay in for years to come. Should I have looked elsewhere to make sure I was living in a more diverse area too?

You'll be safe in this neck of the woods Mark - it's predominantly white and the traffic is fine!

 

[leedswolf]

Who said I was white...?

Stupid girl though?

 

[machin05]

Stupid girl though?

And a Bieber fan to boot.

 

[leedswolf]

I knew that bit.

 

[visage]

Now theres a few long, complicated words that brexiters might struggle with.

So in plain English hes talking about removing pesky things like minimum wages, maternity leave, paid holidays, and safety at work.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Now theres a few long, complicated words that brexiters might struggle with.

So in plain English hes talking about removing pesky things like minimum wages, maternity leave, paid holidays, and safety at work.

Is there safety at work? I think my shattered left hand might disagree with that.

 

[nimrod]

i remember going to see anarcho punk band oi polloi in sparkbrook once, at the mermaid. great night.

 

[Kenny]

Is there safety at work? I think my shattered left hand might disagree with that.

Odd comment Frank.

Are you saying all work places operate with no regard for their employees safety and after incidents such as yours they can just shrug their shoulders?

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Odd comment Frank.

Are you saying all work places operate with no regard for their employees safety and after incidents such as yours they can just shrug their shoulders?

You are correct. Please accept my apologies, I shouldn't have said that.

 

[Kenny]

You are correct. Please accept my apologies, I shouldn't have said that.

Appreciate why you would feel the way you do though.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Everyone has much sympathy for you Frank.

The thing is *because* safety procedures are in place now as a matter of course, there will be found to be some kind of a failing somewhere and it will lead to you being compensated (although I'm sure you'd rather have your hand back to working order than any amount of money). If H&S didn't exist then employers could just go "meh, you chose to work here" and that would be that.

 

[thehistorymakers]

Now theres a few long, complicated words that brexiters might struggle with.

So in plain English hes talking about removing pesky things like minimum wages, maternity leave, paid holidays, and safety at work.

Zero hour contracts and 4 million workers living below the poverty line is no great legacy for pre Brexit. Maybe if the self proclaimed intellectuals had given a shit before Brexit, you would still be able to sing the EU anthem. It was shit for many working class British people while we were in the EU, but you were more interested in solar panels and wind turbines. Don't start with your crocodile tears pretending you give a shit now. It is all about interests with you, your interests not any body you look down your nose at.

 

[Tony Towner]

No one has even tried to answer my question yet. Why did Tim Farron choose to live in the Lake District ? Why does he and others like him, choose to live in an all-white area ? Sounds like do as I say, not as I do. There are plenty more like him and there are a few on here too.

You don't need any house buying advice from me MARKakaJIM. If you were moving to Birmingham I just know you would have Sparkbrook as your number one choice wouldn't you ?

I don't know what you are trying to achieve, but if it's not looking like a racist scumbag you aren't doing a very good job

 

[visage]

WHereas prior to EU membership the working classes lived in palaces and drank champagne, right?

You've only got to look at all those non-EU countries to see that they're all workers paradises...

 

[visage]

I don't know what you are trying to achieve, but if it's not looking like a racist scumbag you aren't doing a very good job

Rest assured the matter will be dealt with shortly.

 

[Trips]

Zero hour contracts and 4 million workers living below the poverty line is no great legacy for pre Brexit. Maybe if the self proclaimed intellectuals had given a shit before Brexit, you would still be able to sing the EU anthem. It was shit for many working class British people while we were in the EU, but you were more interested in solar panels and wind turbines. Don't start with your crocodile tears pretending you give a shit now. It is all about interests with you, your interests not any body you look down your nose at.

Haha, so you think with Liam Fox's quote we will see the end of zero hour contracts and people working below the poverty line? Delusional. Yes, employment rights currently aren't perfect, but judging by what Fox is implying they are currently a hell of a lot better than they will end up being. If only there was something we could be a member of that protected workers rights like minimum wage, working time directives, Health & Safety................

 

[thehistorymakers]

Haha, so you think with Liam Fox's quote we will see the end of zero hour contracts and people working below the poverty line? Delusional. Yes, employment rights currently aren't perfect, but judging by what Fox is implying they are currently a hell of a lot better than they will end up being. If only there was something we could be a member of that protected workers rights like minimum wage, working time directives, Health & Safety................

4 million British workers living below the poverty line in the UK. Hundreds of billions of euros wasted in southern Europe, trying to stop mass unemployment. Result after decades, more unemployment, more poverty and people having to leave their homes in southern Europe to work in sweat shops in the UK, like Sportsdirect.
The EU has been a failure for the working class.