Pre-season friendly thread

[Throbber3]

Think it depends. You need defenders that are more athletic and with more pace if we want to play a high line, especially if we want to play a 4 at some point.

Lage has already twigged he can’t play a 4 with this current crop.

 

[The Bear]

SA
BOLY COADY MARCAL
SEMEDO NEVES DONCK RAN
TRINCAO RAUL TRAORE

For next week then! Charge!!!!!

Definitely what I'd go with.

 

[The Bear]

Hoever impressed me in the 2nd half today as well. Got forward and linked nicely with some good passing and crosses.

 

[Throbber3]

Definitely what I'd go with.

Not a team for a nil nil is it .

 

[thisisgil]

Looks like I finally got my wish with Coady playing a little further forward, almost as an anchor man.
Also looks like, contrary to popular opinion, he was pretty decent in the position.

#SmugFace

 

[Deano]

Lage has already twigged he can’t play a 4 with this current crop.

Still hoping it can change by close of the window but we probably have too much to do in this window now to get to a point we can play a 4 comfortably.

 

[The Bear]

Not a team for a nil nil is it .

It's no different to the way Nuno set up.

 

[Throbber3]

Still hoping it can change by close of the window but we probably have too much to do in this window now to get to a point we can play a 4 comfortably.

I agree. We need too many changes to make it work . Lage does not appear to be anywhere near as fixed as some feared, by his pre season set ups.

 

[big mean bunny]

Lage has already twigged he can’t play a 4 with this current crop.

And I give him credit for that, that's the first step he isn't going to be pragmatic likes Vilias Boas when he was trying to install his style at Chelsea.

 

[AndyWolves]

Not directed at you. More reference to the “I’m worried until proven otherwise brigade”. Happy with the old manager serving up dross but then unhappy when a new manager tries to change the mentality in a few weeks without reinforcements.

I would expand on that but Slink has done it for me.

I'm in the worried until proven otherwise camp, for what it's worth I wasn't happy with what Nuno served up last season.

What I'm pretty sure we had under Nuno was at least the ability to grind results, I have no idea if we have that now.

As I said in other posts it's not a Nuno Vs Lage thing, it's bigger than that. I don't see how Lage can change things if he can't bring in the players he wants and given we still have lots of Nuno-esq tendencies I am indeed concerned until proven otherwise.

The second half was encouraging, if we can start games like that I'll be more encouraged.

 

[prawnking]

What’s wrong with having an opinion based on discretion rather than concrete evidence? Isn’t that, you know, the stuff of forums and football talk in everyday life?! It’s not like I’m applying that decision main process in my professional life as head of the armed forces and about to invade Iraq. It’s quite likely I’ll be wrong, I’m wrong about plenty of stuff, but its OK to have an opinion.

It also doesn’t make a jot of difference as to what happens on the pitch. If I turned up to the games and whined and booed that would be a different matter, but I don’t. I turn up and support and will always do so, and I’ll be delighted to see my concerns proven wrong. Deelighted. You, it seems, will be right either way Anyway, I’ve ranted a little here as a result of weeks of reading this portrayal of consistency as negativity so I’ll cork it now, it’s going off track.

You'll have to expand on this 'consistency' stuff, as to me the forum has always jumped upon 'negativity' and criticism of the club, (most) players, the manager and transfer windows, and espoused a 'wait and see' mentality to most situations.

We've had a volte-face on that, in that adopting a 'glass empty' mentality is either practiced or tolerated to a massive degree now, so I fail to see the consistency in that. It just looks like good old revelling in negativity to me, but of course people can't admit that...

 

[Alan]

I'm in the worried until proven otherwise camp, for what it's worth I wasn't happy with what Nuno served up last season.

What I'm pretty sure we had under Nuno was at least the ability to grind results, I have no idea if we have that now.

As I said in other posts it's not a Nuno Vs Lage thing, it's bigger than that. I don't see how Lage can change things if he can't bring in the players he wants and given we still have lots of Nuno-esq tendencies I am indeed concerned until proven otherwise.

The second half was encouraging, if we can start games like that I'll be more encouraged.

In what world would we not still have these tendencies at this point?

 

[Tony Towner]

SA
BOLY COADY MARCAL
SEMEDO NEVES DONCK RAN
TRINCAO RAUL TRAORE

For next week then! Charge!!!!!

Boly is out, unless there is new news?

 

[Throbber3]

What I'm pretty sure we had under Nuno was at least the ability to grind results, I have no idea if we have that now.

I do believe that you can grind out a horrible 1 0 against a team once. Maybe twice with luck, see Leeds and Fulham last year. But you soon get found out. With 3 points for a win , if you are on the front foot you will cause enough problems if you have pace and ability. We have that in Traore Neto and in a lesser form Podence and Trincao. We are just average defensively.
I do like the look of Sa though. He is nuts in a Grobbelaar way. Very quick off his line and wants to play on the pitch it seems

 

[thisisgil]

In what world would we not still have these tendencies at this point?

The one where we sacked off Moutinho and Saiss on the 24th May.

 

[prawnking]

What I'm pretty sure we had under Nuno was at least the ability to grind results, I have no idea if we have that now.

Then why talk about relegation before we've even played a meaningful game and had the chance to obtain any kind of result?

 

[Throbber3]

Boly is out, unless there is new news?
Spoilsport

 

[Alan]

The one where we sacked off Moutinho and Saiss on the 24th May.

That... doesn't quite compute for me.

 

[thisisgil]

That... doesn't quite compute for me.

They are the two players I think most represent the Nuno malaise.

 

[AndyWolves]

In what world would we not still have these tendencies at this point?

I honestly thought I'd be able to see the difference between a Nuno & Lage first half by now.